2007 Conference Naming

venka.osgeo venka.osgeo at gmail.com
Fri Oct 27 23:32:35 EDT 2006


Hi all,

Changed the topic in this mail.

And now that I have said almost all I
wanted, I agree that we move quickly
for a vote. Was hoping to hear from
our friends in Europe before we did
that. But, think the vote will make
it clear.

Anyone can take a wild guess how I
am going to vote.

Thanks for all the input. This
conversation was very educative
for me.

Cheers

Venka

Michael P. Gerlek wrote:
> Well spoken, Tyler.  Nonetheless --
> 
> Although consensus is generally preferred to voting, I agree with
> Paul in that further discussion probably won't get us anywhere.  I
> too suggest the conference committee call a vote and then let's move
> on with the real work in getting the conference underway.
> 
> -mpg
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Tyler Mitchell
> [mailto:tylermitchell at shaw.ca] Sent: Fri 10/27/2006 7:46 PM To:
> dev at conference.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Conf] Fwd: FOSS4G 2007
> 
> 
> On 27-Oct-06, at 5:35 PM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
> 
>> venka.osgeo wrote:
>>> venka.osgeo wrote: ...
>>>>> This is exactly the sort of erosion of OSGeo's branding that
>>>>> I'm worried about.
>>>> ...
>>>> 
>>>> Can you please clarify what you are exactly worried about.
>>> I think making good use of the FOSS4G brand would not erode
>>> OSGeo's brand.
>> Venka,
>> 
>> I think having two "destinations", one osgeo.org, and one 
>> foss4g.org, erodes our branding influence.
> 
> In a similar way, I feel the same way about the conference name, that
>  any other name distracts from OSGeo.  We have a focus in VisCom on
>  producing logos, branding, and other nitty gritty stuff to try to 
> boast OSGeo.  Adding another 'product' name into the mix is going to
>  make it that much harder.  I'd like to see OSGeo be the organisation
>  AND the Conference name.  What will the website be?  osgeo.org is as
>  simple as it gets.
> 
> I also believe that the brand of FOSS4G is not as strong as OSGeo.
>  It has been used as a conference name, but I think the name is not
>  what made the conference popular.  It is meaningless to those who
> are on the outside - those who we want to reach out to.  However,
> with OSGeo, it is a name that we are actively promoting all the time.
>  FOSS4G isn't being promoted at all, except as a conference.  After
> we reach out in the name of OSGeo to people - they are able to
> instantly make a connection between "OSGeo '07" when they see it
> because they already know about the foundation from our marketing
> efforts.
> 
> I also think it is unfair for the other conferences and groups that
>  we've absorbed to be simply ignored and replaced by FOSS4G.  By 
> calling it FOSS4G it is saying it is a continuation of a specific 
> tradition, and in a way we are, but it is only part of the story. For
> many people even within our communities, FOSS4G is a relatively new
> term.
> 
> We are starting something new and we are tapping into OSGeo resources
>  to help make it a success. I think we owe it to OSGeo to keep this
>  major outreach event as closely tied to the foundation as possible.
> 
> Tyler
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