[OSGeo-Conf] 2007 Conference Naming

[Arnulf Christl]

On Sat, October 28, 2006 05:32, venka.osgeo wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Changed the topic in this mail.
>
> And now that I have said almost all I
> wanted, I agree that we move quickly
> for a vote. Was hoping to hear from
> our friends in Europe before we did
> that. But, think the vote will make
> it clear.

Europe is present and votes with a strong and thorough
+7 for FOSS4G (or anything that will keep the "F" momentum where we need it)

> Anyone can take a wild guess how I
> am going to vote.

+9 on FOSS4G is my guess for Venka's vote

Thats 16 out of 12 votes, so that should be approved all right.

The name (and brand) FOSSGIS has a strong recognition in Germany and it
actually helps to spread word about OSGeo. So it is the other way round
here really, FOSSGIS is not taking aways any recognition or branding of
OSGeo but acitively supports it. FOSSGIS is a lot bigger in Germany than
OSGeo is.

Maybe it would suit us (OSGeo) better to consider ourselves a little more
like newcomers and guests within the Free and Open Source scene. If not we
will appear like "taking over" and believe me, I will have a lot of
trouble around here if this perception really makes the round.

Best regards,
Arnulf.
(Director of OSGeo)

> Thanks for all the input. This
> conversation was very educative
> for me.
>
> Cheers
>
> Venka
>
> Michael P. Gerlek wrote:
>> Well spoken, Tyler.  Nonetheless --
>>
>> Although consensus is generally preferred to voting, I agree with
>> Paul in that further discussion probably won't get us anywhere.  I
>> too suggest the conference committee call a vote and then let's move
>> on with the real work in getting the conference underway.
>>
>> -mpg
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Tyler Mitchell
>> [mailto:tylermitchell at shaw.ca] Sent: Fri 10/27/2006 7:46 PM To:
>> dev at conference.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Conf] Fwd: FOSS4G 2007
>>
>>
>> On 27-Oct-06, at 5:35 PM, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
>>
>>> venka.osgeo wrote:
>>>> venka.osgeo wrote: ...
>>>>>> This is exactly the sort of erosion of OSGeo's branding that
>>>>>> I'm worried about.
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you please clarify what you are exactly worried about.
>>>> I think making good use of the FOSS4G brand would not erode
>>>> OSGeo's brand.
>>> Venka,
>>>
>>> I think having two "destinations", one osgeo.org, and one
>>> foss4g.org, erodes our branding influence.
>>
>> In a similar way, I feel the same way about the conference name, that
>>  any other name distracts from OSGeo.  We have a focus in VisCom on
>>  producing logos, branding, and other nitty gritty stuff to try to
>> boast OSGeo.  Adding another 'product' name into the mix is going to
>>  make it that much harder.  I'd like to see OSGeo be the organisation
>>  AND the Conference name.  What will the website be?  osgeo.org is as
>>  simple as it gets.
>>
>> I also believe that the brand of FOSS4G is not as strong as OSGeo.
>>  It has been used as a conference name, but I think the name is not
>>  what made the conference popular.  It is meaningless to those who
>> are on the outside - those who we want to reach out to.  However,
>> with OSGeo, it is a name that we are actively promoting all the time.
>>  FOSS4G isn't being promoted at all, except as a conference.  After
>> we reach out in the name of OSGeo to people - they are able to
>> instantly make a connection between "OSGeo '07" when they see it
>> because they already know about the foundation from our marketing
>> efforts.
>>
>> I also think it is unfair for the other conferences and groups that
>>  we've absorbed to be simply ignored and replaced by FOSS4G.  By
>> calling it FOSS4G it is saying it is a continuation of a specific
>> tradition, and in a way we are, but it is only part of the story. For
>> many people even within our communities, FOSS4G is a relatively new
>> term.
>>
>> We are starting something new and we are tapping into OSGeo resources
>>  to help make it a success. I think we owe it to OSGeo to keep this
>>  major outreach event as closely tied to the foundation as possible.
>>
>> Tyler
>>
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Arnulf Christl
http://www.ccgis.de