[OSGeo-Conf] [Board] 50% FOSS4G-NA profits to NA
cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Tue Aug 21 13:56:26 PDT 2012
On 21/08/2012 10:08 PM, David William Bitner wrote:
> 3. Earmark a minimum of 50% of net conference profits for future
> North America events (excluding the main FOSS4G international
> * I think this is a valid request, but there are many grey areas
> associated with the wide comment and I believe it requires more
> discussion (at least weeks). FOSS4G-NA, in the interests of
> getting this motion approved, can we please remove this point from
> the motion.
> No. We are willing to refine this statement, but as we received 100%
> of net conference profits from our preceding event, we feel it is only
> fair if we pass a significant amount forward to make sure this event
> continues. Would limiting it to an earmark of 50% to a 2015 NA Event
> (2014 if the 2014 International event is not in NA) with that amount
> rolling back to OSGeo general funds were it not to happen limit this
> better for you?
I'm breaking discussion out as a separate thread.
My concerns with this statement is that while OSGeo may wish to provide
this support, there are a number of valid scenarios where it will be
difficult to deliver, and how OSGeo delivers is open to mis-interpretation.
As we are seeing right now, Conferences need funds to secure a
conference. Assuming everything goes to plan, these funds will never be
used, they just sit in the bank acting as a guarantee. Is this what the
50% funds are to be used for? (I think this is a valid request).
Can FOSS4G-NA spend all of the 50% funds on extra activities (such as
sponsoring a code sprint), at the expense of retaining security funds
for next year? I think that security funds need to be kept in the bank,
and if there is some money left over, then there could be extra funds
spend on extra activities.
If these funds are sitting in the bank, then can OSGeo use these 50%
funds to secure another conference in an off year? I think OSGeo should
be able to.
If the other conference fails, and OSGeo looses much of its capital,
does OSGeo need to honour its commitment to FOSS4G-NA at the expense of
OSGeo's core business? I don't think so.
And if FOSS4G-NA put such clauses into agreements with OSGeo, then
expect them from the rest of the world as well. Who do you propose will
manage, monitor and arbitrate on all these agreements? Note that OSGeo
doesn't have any paid staff.
As you can see from above, there are lots of questions, which I think
will take weeks and probably longer to consider.
As such I would like to move forward without this statement included in
the agreement, but with an understanding that FOSS4G-NA wish to have "a
minimum of 50% of net conference profits for future FOSS4G North America
events (excluding the main FOSS4G international event)", and the OSGeo
Board acknowledging that this is a reasonable request which the board
would like to honour in principle, but which the board is not ready to
commit to until the details have been considered.
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