[OSGeo-Conf] [Board] FOSS4G Discount for Charter Members proposal

Andrew Ross andrew.ross at eclipse.org
Thu Aug 28 07:01:20 PDT 2014


+1, very well said.

On 28/08/14 09:52, Steven Feldman wrote:
> I know there is a strong view that outreach to non US and European 
> locations is important for OSGeo, however I would question whether 
> there is enough local audience to sustain our annual 'global' event 
> given constraints that many of us have on travel. Perhaps we should 
> consider encouraging large locally organised regional events run in 
> these key emerging rather than trying to run a global event? As the 
> size of the regional communities grows to the point where they can 
> sustain a global event with the extra cost, sponsorship and 
> organisational overhead then we can reconsider.
> ______
> Steven
>
>
> On 28 Aug 2014, at 14:31, Daniel Kastl <daniel at georepublic.de 
> <mailto:daniel at georepublic.de>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrew,
>>
>> And I would like to ask, if Eclipse Foundation staff would be able to 
>> run a conference some other place than Europe or North America. 
>> Because I looked at the past EclipseCon conference locations, and I 
>> couldn't find any other conference location than in Europe or North 
>> America.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Bart van den Eijnden 
>> <bartvde at osgis.nl <mailto:bartvde at osgis.nl>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hey Andrew,
>>
>>     in the case where the Eclipse Foundation staff would run the
>>     FOSS4G event, would OSGeo still issue the RFP? Or would this be
>>     done by the Eclipse Foundation instead?
>>
>>     Best regards,
>>     Bart
>>
>>     On 28 Aug 2014, at 15:09, Andrew Ross <andrew.ross at eclipse.org
>>     <mailto:andrew.ross at eclipse.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     > Cameron,
>>     >
>>     > I'd like to start (continue?) the discussion by simply offering
>>     to have the Eclipse Foundation staff run a regular event on
>>     behalf of the FOSS4G community (including OSGeo projects,
>>     LocationTech projects, & many other related organizations and
>>     unaffiliated projects) similar to what we proposed for Washington
>>     D.C.. It was a detailed proposal so perhaps a good place to start
>>     with and frame the discussion. Unless I'm mistaken, much of it
>>     may be quite acceptable and help us narrow what could be an
>>     overwhelming discussion down to a few key areas. Is this reasonable?
>>     >
>>     > For what it's worth, I'm definitely open minded if there's a
>>     better approach.
>>     >
>>     > Andrew
>>     >
>>     > On 27/08/14 16:54, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>     >> All good ideas.
>>     >> Anyone up for consolidating ideas into a proposal, then obtain
>>     agreement from the conference committee?
>>     >> A start has been made at:
>>     >> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook
>>     >> In particular:
>>     >> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook#Editing_this_document
>>     >>
>>     >> It still requires some integration with the FOSS4G RFP
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >> On 27/08/2014 3:54 am, Andrew Ross wrote:
>>     >>> Thanks for the clarification Peter. For what it's worth, I
>>     agree that a clearly defined mechanism makes a lot of sense.
>>     >>>
>>     >>> On 26/08/14 12:08, Peter Baumann wrote:
>>     >>>> sorry, folks, that was not intended to go into this thread
>>     but another one. Now I see I have not been fast enough with ESC.
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> OK, another attempt to say something meaningful:
>>     >>>> OSGeo might license its brand to conferences, and this
>>     allows them to send invoices even to universities. Secures OSGeo
>>     a fixed income, allowing LOCs to plan ahead.
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> -Peter
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> On 08/26/2014 05:42 PM, Andrew Ross wrote:
>>     >>>>> Sorry Peter, I'm not sure I understand your comment?
>>     >>>>>
>>     >>>>> On 26/08/14 11:22, Peter Baumann wrote:
>>     >>>>>> so back with universities :)
>>     >>>>>> -Peter
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>> On 08/26/2014 05:16 PM, Andrew Ross wrote:
>>     >>>>>>> Very good point.
>>     >>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>> A not-for-profit organizer may be a significant benefit
>>     and simplify things quite a bit.
>>     >>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>> A bunch more legal/fiscal issues emerge when you run
>>     events and have to handle and transfer funds internationally. The
>>     number of organizations who can handle this is fairly limited and
>>     those that do so for a reasonable fee even more so. Continuity
>>     helps make it worthwhile to figure this out in the first place
>>     and stay on top of it as things change over time.
>>     >>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>> On 26/08/14 10:59, Darrell Fuhriman wrote:
>>     >>>>>>>> Amen. We burned at least two months, maybe three,
>>     working that out.
>>     >>>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>>> I think it's actually really funny that the first piece
>>     of advice given to the LOC by OSGeo is "Find a conference
>>     organizer to help you."
>>     >>>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>>> If that's the first piece of advice, then it seems
>>     pretty clear to me that OSGeo should just have a conference
>>     organizer on contract. The benefits of continuity from year to
>>     year would be enormous.
>>     >>>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>>> d.
>>     >>>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2014, at 07:54, David William Bitner
>>     <bitner at dbspatial.com <mailto:bitner at dbspatial.com>> wrote:
>>     >>>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>>>> And none of this even discusses the hassles that a
>>     grass roots organizing group has with finding an entity to act as
>>     a fiscal agent (aka deal with the money).
>>     >>>>>>>>>
>>     >>>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >
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