[OSGeo-Conf] [OSGeo-Discuss] Code of Conduct in Real Case

Jorge Gustavo Rocha jgr at di.uminho.pt
Wed Jun 24 13:39:50 PDT 2015

Dear friends,

FOSS4G is about innovation. "In freedom we trust" do promote disruption. 
We should reject the way things are supposed to be. That's what I 
learned from... FOSS4G!

The CoC is the certificate that we are dying. We will make all of us 
grey. It will kill our passion.

The CoC is already being used to limit Sanghee freedom of speech. Yes, 
that's the very first use of our brand new CoC. Governments have great 
imagination to justify and restrict the freedom of speech. We adopted a 
CoC, which is a polite way to do so.

Why we care about companies that do not sponsor conferences without a 
Code of Conduct? Only a few companies understand and practice the 
principles we believe on. These are the companies I like to see in our 
FOSS4G showroom: the ones able to do something different. I don't care 
about the others. We are not OGC, W3C or any other body ruled by the 
"art of consensus". Our rule should be the art of disruption.

We are not interested in "more women to become engaged in FOSS4G". We 
are interested in people engaged and passionate about FOSS4G. We don't 
care about the sex, the colour, the religious or the operating system. 
Why are we interested specifically in more women?

There is a large and growing business behind FOSS4G, which is an huge 
accomplishment of FOSS4G, that we should care and maintain. It is ok to 
have some grey people with a strange piece of cloth knotted at the 
throat attending FOSS4G and moving around.

We should not kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. We believe in 
freedom: we rejecting the way things are supposed to be. We should be 
leading, not following.

I look forward to review you all in Seoul (or in Como).

Jorge Gustavo

On 24-06-2015 18:11, Jachym Cepicky wrote:
> To get the presentation in balance again, I suggest:
> 1) add description to the slide with Girls' Generation image (neither I
> do not know this band)
> 2) replace back of a woman with back of a man, so that the message
> remains the same. I volunteer with couple of images of mine, you can
> grab it from facebook
> J
> P.S. ;-)
> st 24. 6. 2015 v 17:52 odesílatel Kristin Bott <bottk at reed.edu
> <mailto:bottk at reed.edu>> napsal:
>     Hi, all --
>     Including the conference list on this, since I think it's relevant
>     (and I suspect that variations on this conversation are happening in
>     multiple corners).
>     re: implementation plans for the CoC. A group of folks met during
>     State of the Map in NYC earlier this month to talk about what an
>     implementation plan might look like. We are currently drafting
>     language to present to the board to form a CoC committee /as well as
>     /drafting an implementation plan. Jeff, we can most certainly have
>     this done by 1 September 2015.
>     Responding to CoC concerns is not simple -- we're trying to create a
>     structure and a process that will make this as smooth as possible
>     for all involved.
>     If you have any questions / concerns about this, feel free to
>     contact me, off-list or otherwise.
>     cheers -
>     -kristin
>     On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:03 AM, Jeff McKenna
>     <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com
>     <mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>> wrote:
>         I thank Sanghee for bringing this to the community.  I want to
>         point out
>         that having just a "Code of Conduct", words, on a website is not
>         enough,
>         there needs to be a whole structure of how to handle this.  In bold
>         letters I want to state publicly: there is currently no
>         implementation
>         plan for the OSGeo Code of Conduct.  This is not acceptable.  A
>         few good
>         volunteers have been discussing offline how to setup an
>         implementation
>         plan, as well as possibly even a new OSGeo committee for this,
>         great,
>         but, it is still in discussion stage.  Without some sort of plan,
>         community members are already contacting me directly with
>         reports, and I
>         have no formal way to handle these reports.  (Sanghee was nice
>         enough to
>         help me solve this together publicly, but, this obviously cannot
>         apply
>         to all reports)
>         I suggest, propose, that if there is no implementation plan for
>         the Code
>         of Conduct by the 1st of September, that the Code of Conduct is
>         removed
>         from all visible OSGeo pages, and is replaced with a simple
>         Diversity
>         statement.
>         I am sorry for being direct here, but, as you can see, this needs to
>         move forward, or not at all.
>         -jeff
>         --
>         Jeff McKenna
>         President, OSGeo
>         http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna
>         On 2015-06-24 7:22 AM, Sanghee Shin wrote:
>          > Dear All,
>          >
>          > It’s now time to apply OSGeo CoC(Code of Conduct)[0] in real
>         case.
>          >
>          > I was asked to remove a few slides from my presentation "7
>         Reasons why you should come to FOSS4G 2015 Seoul”[1], which is
>         at the main page of FOSS4G Seoul, as being possibly offensive to
>         women. Specifically to say, slide #6 (nude female in painting)
>         and slide #20 (row of female models) are those controversial ones.
>          >
>          > I refused this asking immediately because I don’t believe my
>         presentation breach the OSGeo CoC and I don’t agree with that view.
>          >
>          > However since this is not the first time asking me to remove
>         those slides from my presentation and OSGeo now have CoC, I
>         think we’d better discuss this issue more openly to reach
>         conclusions.
>          >
>          > I might be wrong and I’d like to hear other people’s opinion
>         on this from all around the world. Also I expect Conference
>         Committee’s input as well, because this is the matter of OSGeo
>         conference.
>          >
>          > I’m open to remove/amend/keep those slides after hearing
>         other people’s opinions on this. Also I believe it’ll be a great
>         chance for OSGeo to learn how to apply CoC in real cases.
>          >
>          > *Sidenote for defending myself:
>          > - Slide #6 is the part of Salvador Dali’s well known painting
>         named “Lincoln in Dalivision”[2]
>          > - Slide #20 is the picture of famous girl group, Girls’
>         Generation(SNSD)[3], which I believe as symbolic icon of wide
>         spread of Korean culture(K-Culture) in/around Asia.
>          >
>          > All the best,
>          >
>          > Sanghee
>          >
>          > [0]http://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct
>          > [1]http://2015.foss4g.org
>          > [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_in_Dalivision
>          > [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls%27_Generation
>          > ---
>          > Sanghee Shin, Chair of FOSS4G 2015 Seoul
>          > "Toward Diversity! FOSS4G Bigbang from Seoul!"
>          > http://2015.foss4g.org
>          > Twitter: @foss4g
>          > Facebook: FOSS4G2015
>          > email: foss4gchair at osgeo.org <mailto:foss4gchair at osgeo.org>
>          >
>          >
>          >
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