[OSGeo-Conf] [Board] Proposed text for an OSGeo Code of Conduct

David William Bitner bitner at dbspatial.com
Thu Mar 5 06:16:05 PST 2015


Right now, CoC's are much like licenses were 10 years ago. Everyone wants
to write their own. As developers we all recognize now how silly that was
as we now have to worry about compatibility of different licenses and
worrying whether or not a license is accepted by the FSF or the like. If
all the FOSS and Tech and beyond communities can consolidate around a few
of the base templates for CoC's that are already around, they will be
better tested, better recognized, and better understood. Especially as we
do things like joint events with other communities that may have other
required CoC's compatibility of these is going to become an issue.

I also look at many of the missteps that I personally have made over the
years trying to do things to encourage diversity in the different projects
and communities I have been involved in and I can say with certainty that
policies that are written by even the best intentioned members of
non-disadvantaged groups (read Euro/American white straight males here) are
going to be seriously flawed from the get go.

I would strongly advocate that OSGeo comes up with a single diversity
statement (THIS should be entirely our own) and a Code of Conduct (finding
a common CoC and modifying only if necessary - ie the contact process for
reporting) that encompasses both events as well as things including our
mailing lists and chat channels.



On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 5:17 AM, Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>
wrote:

> Hi Bart, the process stopped when some board members (such as you) were
> hesitant to approve the statement.  In the end nothing happened.  I
> proposed the statement to get things moving.  There seems to be a fear
> involved, some don't want to put their time and name into editing a wiki
> page in writing for this exact topic  (yes this includes board members too).
>
> So we do have something in writing that is waiting for approval (Diversity
> page).
>
> Sorry if I am blunt here, it is frustrating seeing those complain, when
> the complainers won't put their name on something.
>
> -jeff
>
> On Mar 5, 2015 6:50 AM, Bart van den Eijnden <bartvde at osgis.nl> wrote:
> >
> > I can understand the confusion on the conference committee to be honest.
> >
> > They draft up something, the board “takes” over with their own diversity
> statement, and then the whole process stops. We need to decide who is in
> charge here. I’d personally like to see the conference committee take
> charge but I know this is probably not the consensus.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Bart
> >
> >> On 05 Mar 2015, at 11:26, Jachym Cepicky <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Jeff is right. "Waiting and seeing" does not move things a lot, it's
> just by "doing" (doocracy)
> >>
> >> Thanks for your contribution
> >>
> >> J
> >>
> >> čt 5. 3. 2015 v 4:22 odesílatel David William Bitner <
> bitner at dbspatial.com> napsal:
> >>>
> >>> +10000000000
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 4, 2015 8:45 PM, "David Percy" <percyd at pdx.edu> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Now that I'm a charter member I can happily nominate and vote for
> Eli for the board, he would make great contributions, in addition to what
> he already does!
> >>>> Thanks for the suggestion, Jeff!
> >>>> :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Jeff McKenna <
> jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Eli,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am not sure of the purpose of this message.  If you decide to
> 'wait and see' in this world, well nothing will ever get done.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Everyone is working hard and doing their best.  My last message to
> the Conference Committee was to yes put the proposed text in a wiki and
> bring it to the Board, or, as I said in my message that if you cannot do
> that, then you can edit the wiki directly that I proposed to the Board[1];
> Unfortunately since I said that nothing has happened (the ball was left on
> the floor).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So I agree, if nothing else happens, the OSGeo Board will move
> forward with the proposed text in the wiki.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Again, yes, please do put your ideas in the wiki and propose it to
> the Board.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In terms of tomorrow's meeting, we have some huge topics to decide
> as a Board, so that should give you time to lead the changes on the wiki.
> And please next time start the discussions a little earlier than the night
> before the Board meeting.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If I can leave you tonight with a final thought, it would be: maybe
> you should consider joining the OSGeo Board, in the next election.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -jeff
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2015-03-04 9:00 PM, Eli Adam wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Camille and all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks to everyone for contributing to what could become an OSGeo
> Code
> >>>>>> of Conduct.  I appreciate that knowledgeable people with relevant
> >>>>>> backgrounds and experiences have been helping; thanks.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here is a short recap of what I know of OSGeo CoC and my opinions of
> >>>>>> the conversation moving forward.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The OSGeo Board deferred CoC to the conference committee over four
> >>>>>> years ago in 2010 [0], where it was discussed and not pursued for
> >>>>>> development or adoption [1].
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Despite no formal OSGeo policy, over the past several years FOSS4G
> >>>>>> LOCs of both the main international conference and some regional
> >>>>>> conferences have used CoCs and seem to recognize it as worthwhile.
> >>>>>> Some OSGeo Projects (QGIS) have adopted CoCs too.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In October 2014, the OSGeo Board votes to develop a CoC [2].
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> January 2015, lots of CoC debate and drafting here on the conference
> >>>>>> list.  Thanks to Cameron for trying to coordinate various ideas
> into a
> >>>>>> coherent manner, including many participants and accessing available
> >>>>>> resources relevant to CoCs.  Cameron's work helps distill everything
> >>>>>> into something appropriate for voting in a Board meeting.  Thanks to
> >>>>>> everyone for participating and contributing.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> February, the OSGeo board takes up a Diversity Statement [3] and on
> >>>>>> the wiki [4].  Some aspects of it are similar to a CoC.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My opinion of moving the conversation forward is to "wait and see"
> >>>>>> what the OSGeo Board does.  The item has fallen into the "Items from
> >>>>>> past meetings" section [5], which is rarely reached due to lack of
> >>>>>> time.    Depending on what the Board does (or doesn't do), it makes
> >>>>>> sense for the conference committee to take up the issue again in an
> >>>>>> appropriate scope (whole foundation or international FOSS4G),
> perhaps
> >>>>>> putting something like the proposed text Cameron put together on a
> >>>>>> Board agenda for a vote.  My opinion is that the conversation has
> >>>>>> stopped.  Tomorrow's Board meeting [5] should give some indication
> of
> >>>>>> that.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [0]
> http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2010-November/008511.html
> >>>>>> [1]
> http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2010-November/001235.html
> >>>>>> [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2014-10-16
> >>>>>> [3]
> http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-February/012456.html
> >>>>>> [4] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity
> >>>>>> [5] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2015-03-05
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks for everyone contributing and best regards, Eli
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 6:02 AM, Camille Acey <
> camille at boundlessgeo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I agree with this statement and would be interested to hear how
> this conversation is moving forward.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>> Camille
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Camille E. Acey
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Manager, Customer Development and Partnerships| Boundless
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> camille at boundlessgeo.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> T: +1 917.460.7197|M: +1 347.267.2016| Skype: camilleacey
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> New York, NY - USA
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> @boundlessgeo
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Cameron Shorter <
> cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi Jeff, all,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks for invitation to the board meeting [1] to discuss a code
> of conduct. Unfortunately I can't make it, my enthusiasm for OSGeo wains at
> 2am (which is the timeslot for me). Maybe there are others who have been
> involved in the conference email list discuss who will join in.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So I'll add my comments in advance:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 1. I strongly believe there should be ONLY ONE OSGeo endorsed and
> recommended Code of Conduct / Diversity Statement. It makes it simpler and
> hence easier to apply.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2. Following on from 1), other OSGeo communities should be
> invited to contribute to the Code of Conduct / Diversity Statement. In
> particular, the conference committee should be invited to contribute.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 4. I suggest building on prior best practice documentation rather
> than writing our own from scratch. Many of these prior documents have
> already gone through multiple review cycles and it makes sense to build
> upon that expertise. There have been a number of referenced best practice
> documents referenced. Carl has just suggested an OGC reference which is
> good (and built upon prior material).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 6. There has been valuable and insightful suggestions on this
> topic already on the conference thread. I suggest building upon those
> comments as well.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 5. David William Bitner valuably suggested documenting what we
> want to achieve, then use that as a basis for writing. (see comment below).
> I suggest what we want such a document to cover:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Recognise that OSGeo has a DIVERSE community
> >>>>>>>> * Set expectation that people should act RESPECTFULLY toward each
> other
> >>>>>>>> * Outline a process for RECOGNISING, REPORTING and ADDRESSING
> incidents which can be referenced by those dealing with incidents. (Dealing
> with incidents is often a hostile situation, and having a process to
> reference can greatly help the people doing the hard job of mediating.)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 6. While I like the concept of the word "Diversity", I think it
> is currently confusing in  "Diversity Statement" as a heading. "Diversity"
> is broad in meaning, and can mean Diversity in software choice, food
> selection, processes followed, etc, etc. We should select a heading
> relevant to what is being described - which is an expectation of
> "behaviour" or "conduct".  "Code of Conduct", Principles of Conduct" better
> describe what should be covered.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2015-02-05
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 5/02/2015 3:51 am, Carl Reed wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Venka et. al.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> You might be interested in the OGC Principals of Conduct which
> is itself based on the IETF Code of Conduct.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.opengeospatial.org/ogc/policies/conduct
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Perhaps this might be helpful.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Carl Reed
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Venkatesh Raghavan
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 6:03 AM
> >>>>>>>>> To: board at lists.osgeo.org
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Board] Proposed text for an OSGeo Code of Conduct
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 2015/02/04 21:45, Jeff McKenna wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Yes I agree, which is why I believe the OSGeo Foundation needs
> a very simple Diversity statement, that says everyone can expect an open
> and respectful environment (see my original draft at
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php?title=Diversity&oldid=81445). Notice how
> there is no mention of policing etc in that version. Your discussions on a
> Code of Conduct for FOSS4G are very separate in my opinion.  In any case,
> the OSGeo Board will discuss this in tomorrow's meeting if you would like
> to attend and share your thoughts, all are welcome (
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2015-02-05).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I agree that any statement by OSGeo foundation in general and
> >>>>>>>>> statements pertaining to events produced/hosted/presented by
> >>>>>>>>> OSGeo Foundation should be kept separate.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Venka
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> -jeff
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 2015-02-04 6:28 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm expanding this Code of Conduct thread to include the OSGeo
> Board,
> >>>>>>>>>>> who are proposing an alternative Code of Conduct:
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I strongly suggest that we should try to have only one OSGeo
> Code of
> >>>>>>>>>>> Conduct / Diversity Statement as it reduces confusion and is
> easier to
> >>>>>>>>>>> implement. There is beauty in simplicity. Jeff are you
> suggesting that
> >>>>>>>>>>> we have two? (One for conferences, and another for OSGeo?)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 3/02/2015 7:09 am, Jeff McKenna wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I would like Board members to edit that wiki page directly
> over the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> next few days, and then we can discuss this at the Board
> meeting on
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thursday.  My goal is to have a new "/diversity" page linked
> from the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> main osgeo.org site.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Jeff, I assume that since you have proposed an alternative
> text, that
> >>>>>>>>>>> you have issue with the prior proposed text? (as in the bottom
> of this
> >>>>>>>>>>> email thread). What do you see to be the limitations of the
> prior
> >>>>>>>>>>> proposed text?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Also, in your email, are you requesting that only board
> members edit the
> >>>>>>>>>>> Diversity statement, or is it open to other community members
> to edit as
> >>>>>>>>>>> well?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 4/02/2015 7:16 am, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Interesting, MapZen will only sponsor events which have a
> strong COC
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in place:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://mapzen.com/blog/mapzen-code-of-conduct
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bart
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 25 Jan 2015, at 22:10, Cameron Shorter <
> cameron.shorter at gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Eli,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I like your list of characteristics. I'd add:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Have a CoC in the first place, which breaks down to:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ** Ensure conferences remember / realise that a CoC should
> be in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> place. (Add it to our cookbook [1]  and bid process)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ** Make it easy to apply a CoC by referencing an existing
> document.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Complete this discussion and provide a best practice
> document that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> can be referenced).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I acknowledge your point re over-doing sexualized images
> discussion.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I like the qgis CoC, and suggest that if we can make adding
> a CoC
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> easy (by providing generic text), then we should add having
> a CoC a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> requirement for OSGeo graduation. I've added a placemarker
> into the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> proposed text for the next OSGeo Project Graduation
> Checklist. [2]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Project_Graduation_Checklist#processes.4
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/01/2015 5:53 am, Eli Adam wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Code of Conduct specific wording is less important than
> these
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> characteristics:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Being present (i.e. not implied but clearly stated)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Appearing sincere
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Being sincere
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Having reasonable people implementing it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In that regard, the similar texts you listed were all fine.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Generally, I think that we are spending too much time and
> emphasis on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sexualized images.  We are in the open source geospatial
> software,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> geospatial standards, open data, education, and related
> fields; 95%+
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of all presentations and other content can be done entirely
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully without images of people at all.  For the 5%
> of cases
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that images of people substantively contribute to the
> presentation,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> err on the side of caution, "If in doubt, leave it out".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I like the idea of the conference committee starting with a
> CoC for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> conferences and the Board possibly modifying and expanding
> it to other
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> areas of OSGeo or projects establishing their own (see QGIS,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> http://qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/codeofconduct/codeofconduct.html
> )
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that 2015 FOSS4G needs any input, they
> already seem to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have it under control,
> http://2015.foss4g.org/about/codeofconduct/,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and there was nothing about a CoC in the bid.  We should be
> focusing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016 and beyond.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for working on guiding this process Cameron.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, Eli
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 3:12 AM, Cameron Shorter
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:
> cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for starting this discussion. When you opened the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion, you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very kindly offered to help set a Code of Conduct in
> place. How do you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest we move toward concluding the discussion and
> getting a Code of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conduct in place?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have a timeframe in mind for this? I assume we
> should try to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CoC available for FOSS4G 2015 if they wish to make use of
> one?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter, thanks for you comments on proposed text.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there anyone else with an interest in influencing the
> final
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text? If so,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please speak up.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which is the better version of a CoC?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Prior foss4g: https://2015.foss4g-na.org/code-conduct
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. OReilly:
> http://www.oreilly.com/conferences/code-of-conduct.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (copied
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> below)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. My revised version (copied below)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Something else
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19/01/2015 9:16 am, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi David,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to move proposed CoC text across to a wiki. If
> requested,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copy across now (within 48 hours), or can wait till there
> has been
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> further
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also happy to expand the discussion to other lists,
> although I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expect the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conference committee is probably the logical primary point
> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a CoC is most applicable to conferences. The board
> would need to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sign off
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a CoC and should be invited to comment.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Re identifying what should be in a code of conduct. I've
> attempted
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to start
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on that in the list of items I've attempted to address,
> listed below.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have presented the draft CoC (below), as I find it is
> often easier to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start with a "straw man" which can be picked apart, rather
> than talking
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vaguely in conceptual levels. However, I'm not wedded to
> the text,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and hope
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to see constructive criticism of the ideas, text and
> structure.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19/01/2015 3:46 am, David William Bitner wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really want to thank everyone here for engaging in this
> issue. I do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciate all the different voices that have contributed
> to this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conversation -- they all certainly speak to the diversity
> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thoughts and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiences that we already have in this community.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cameron -- thank you very much for putting forward a first
> draft of a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> potential CoC for us to use. Before drafting and
> wordsmithing a CoC
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to step back and make sure we answer a few questions that
> would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impact how a CoC gets written. When we get to the point of
> drafting, we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should certainly do so on the wiki (or other trackable
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collaborative medium)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than in an email thread.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With some of the wording in this draft as well as seeing
> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the last Board Meeting, is the conference committee the
> correct
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> venue for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this discussion or should this be at the Board level so
> that this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applies to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all OSGeo activities (mailing lists, events, etc)? I am
> certain
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that many of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same people would remain engaged in helping draft a
> Code of Conduct
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> either for the foundation as a whole or just for our
> events, but this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly impacts the scope and wording required in a
> draft.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many of the comments that I read as against having a CoC
> seem to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stem from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people wondering what does a CoC solve. Sadly, having a
> CoC does
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not "solve"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything. There will still be issues. A CoC simply
> provides one
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tool for us
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to help resolve those issues when they come up as well as
> providing a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proactive statement that we aim to be a welcoming and
> diverse
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully prevent some of those issues in the first place.
> A CoC is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end point of diversity initiatives, but it is a very low
> hanging
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fruit to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start with. Other initiatives that I know have been tried
> that we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue to look at their effectiveness include author
> blind public
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review, scholarship initiatives, proactively seeking out
> diversity
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in key
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notes, and many more things that we haven't tried.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/01/2015 2:33 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Following on from this email thread, I've drafted a
> proposed Code of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conduct, where I've aimed to address:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Be concise (concise words get read more)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Cover key messages
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Include an escalation process for dealing with both
> minor and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> major issues
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Ensure key terms are understood (in particular reference
> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definition of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sexualised images)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Couch in positive language
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Tickbox version:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * I agree to act respectfully toward others in line with
> the OSGeo
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Code of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conduct.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OSGeo Code of Conduct:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This Code of Conduct collates the collective values
> adopted by our
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OSGeo
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community which baselines the behaviour we do and don’t
> support to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ensure
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OSGeo is a safe and productive environment for all.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We invite everyone to be respectful to all, regardless of
> race,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gender, age,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance,
> national origin,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ethnicity, religion, or ideas. We do not tolerate
> harassment of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any form. Examples of harassment include offensive
> comments, verbal
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threats
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or demands, sexualized images in public spaces,
> intimidation, stalking,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harassing photography or recording, sustained disruption
> of events, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unwelcome physical contact or sexual attention. [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We expect all participants to follow the Code of Conduct
> when
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OSGeo activities. This includes conferences, related
> social events, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> online forums. Participants violating this Code of Conduct
> will be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asked to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desist and/or make amends. For gross or continual
> violations,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offenders may
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be expelled from the event or forum without a refund,
> and/or banned
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future events or other forums.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Participants are encouraged to bring any concerns to the
> attention
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of event
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> staff, the forum, forum leader, or OSGeo Board. We thank
> all for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helping
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep OSGeo welcoming, respectful, and friendly for all.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] Examples of inappropriate sexualised environments are
> described
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> https://www.humanrights.gov.au/publications/sexual-harassment-code-practice-what-sexual-harassment
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/01/2015 9:59 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking around at various Conference "Codes of Conduct", I
> found the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O'Reilly definition to be eloquently worded, and less
> threatening to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> potential attendees. (Although I still can't find a clear
> definition of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "sexual images".)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.oreilly.com/conferences/code-of-conduct.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Code of Conduct
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At O'Reilly, we assume that most people are intelligent and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well-intended,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and we're not inclined to tell people what to do. However,
> we want
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O'Reilly conference to be a safe and productive
> environment for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone. To
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that end, this code of conduct spells out the behavior we
> support
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and don't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support at conferences. The core of our approach is this:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't condone harassment or offensive behavior, at our
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conference venues
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or anywhere. It's counter to our company values. More
> importantly, it's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> counter to our values as human beings.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We're voicing our strong, unequivocal support of
> appropriate
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> behavior by all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> participants at technical events, including all O'Reilly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conferences. We
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invite you to help us make each O'Reilly conference a
> place that is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> welcoming and respectful to all participants, regardless
> of race,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gender,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> age, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance,
> national
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> origin,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ethnicity, or religion. So that everyone can focus on the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conference itself,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the great networking and community richness that
> happens when
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we get
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together in person, we will not tolerate harassment of
> conference
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> participants in any form—in person or online.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Examples of harassment include offensive comments, verbal
> threats or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demands, sexualized images in public spaces, intimidation,
> stalking,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harassing photography or recording, sustained disruption
> of sessions or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> events, and unwelcome physical contact or sexual attention.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We expect all participants—attendees, speakers, sponsors,
> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> volunteers—to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> follow the Code of Conduct during the conference. This
> includes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conference-related social events at off-site locations,
> and in related
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> online communities and social media. Participants asked to
> stop any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harassing behavior are expected to comply immediately.
> Conference
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> participants violating this Code of Conduct may be
> expelled from the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conference without a refund, and/or banned from future
> O'Reilly
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> events, at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the discretion of O'Reilly Media.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please bring any concerns to the immediate attention of
> the event
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> staff, or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contact our VP of Conferences, Gina Blaber at
> gina at oreilly.com. We
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thank our
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> participants for your help in keeping the event welcoming,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> respectful, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> friendly to all participants.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Read the blog post by Tim O'Reilly that is the basis of our
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> functional code
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of conduct for all O'Reilly conferences.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to the Lean Startup folks and the jsconf.us folks,
> whose
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Codes of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conduct inspired some changes to our own.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cameron Shorter,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Software and Data Solutions Manager
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LISAsoft
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P +61 2 9009 5000,  W www.lisasoft.com,  F +61 2 9009 5099
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cameron Shorter,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Software and Data Solutions Manager
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LISAsoft
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P +61 2 9009 5000,  W www.lisasoft.com,  F +61 2 9009 5099
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cameron Shorter,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Software and Data Solutions Manager
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LISAsoft
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P +61 2 9009 5000,  W www.lisasoft.com,  F +61 2 9009 5099
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conference_dev mailing list
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Conference_dev at lists.osgeo.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cameron Shorter,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Software and Data Solutions Manager
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> LISAsoft
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> P +61 2 9009 5000,  W www.lisasoft.com <
> http://www.lisasoft.com>,  F
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +61 2 9009 5099
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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> Conference_dev at lists.osgeo.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/conference_dev
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>> Board mailing list
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> >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Cameron Shorter,
> >>>>>>>> Software and Data Solutions Manager
> >>>>>>>> LISAsoft
> >>>>>>>> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
> >>>>>>>> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> P +61 2 9009 5000,  W www.lisasoft.com,  F +61 2 9009 5099
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
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> >>>> -Web Map Wrangler
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