[OSGeo-Conf] Decision of Bangkok Team for proposal for FOSS4G 2018

Wed Nov 2 04:12:06 PDT 2016

Dear Nitin,

also from me - I am very sorry to hear and thank you for your honest 
decision, that gives us the possibility to react somehow on this new 
situation.

Indeed I for myself was little surprised about the publishing of the 
numbers of votes from the LoI phase. I can't remember I ever heard any 
counts of votes for Bonn 2016.
On the other side, I would not overestimate the pre-votes at all. You 
handed in a very good LoI which was in this early stage very realistic.

Anyhow, it is like it is and we, CC have to decide how to proceed now - 
as Peter already said.

Till

Am 2016-11-01 01:13, schrieb nitin kumar tripathi:
> Decision of Bangkok Team for Proposal in 2nd Stage
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Dear Members of the OSGeo Conference Committee,
>
> We have received the outcome of voting for the first stage
> of candidates for hosting FOSS4G 2018. We are happy that we are among
> the first two out of three countries which proposed. Thanks Steven to
> ask us to submit proposal for the second stage.
>
> We were charged up to host a vibrant conference but the situation
> has changed since the submission of letter of intent and we have
> decided to
> withdraw from the race. The reasons are:
>
> a) There is a sudden change in the situation in Thailand due to the
> sad demise of our very popular longest serving King Rama IX in Mid
> October. The whole nation is mourning and it is very difficult to get
> support letters for government, industry and academia in Thailand.
> b) Government has declared 1 year of mourning and this calls for
> no festivity and low scale of any event.
> c) We need some letters of support and sponsorship to include in
> the proposal, which is unlikely as we can not approach any
> organisation in the current situation.
> d) Also, we feel that the Tanzania Team, which has 100,000 USD 
> support
> from the World Bank, has a rock solid foundation to organise.  I
> think due to this fact they have also got overwhelming support of 10
> members compared to our 3. It makes us feel that we are way behind in
> race. So we wish them best of luck.
>
> I humbly appeal to the OSGeo Conference Committee not to disclose the
> number of votes at *any* stage, for all future votes. The CRO should
> not share the voting results with anyone, not anyone on the OSGeo
> Conference Committee or shared in public, ever.  It discourages other
> teams to try their best in the Stage 2 to put up a strong proposal -
> the goal is to grow passion, not hinder passion. For example, in this
> vote, there was no need to share the fact that such a vibrant
> community like Lima received only 1 vote (this hurts the flame trying
> to burn in the Peru local community, and also the result can affect
> future votes as OSGeo Conference Committee members could remember 
> such
> a result next time). Also potential sponsors may get some inkling and
> may back-out sensing the impending lack of support in the local
> committee for the proposal.
>
> The Bangkok Team conveys its thanks to all those who have voted for
> its letter of intent and promises that we will be back with a better
> proposal for 2021.
>
> With best wishes for FOSS4G 2018.
>
> DR. NITIN KUMAR TRIPATHI
>
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> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Steven Feldman <shfeldman at gmail.com
> [19]> wrote:
>
>> Thank you to all of the committee members for your stage 1 votes.
>>
>> I confirm that Dar es Salaam and Bangkok received the necessary
>> votes to proceed to submit a full proposal in accord with the RfP
>> process and timeline
>>
>> Our thanks to the Lima team for your Letter of Intent. I hope that
>> you will continue to build FOSS4G in South America and that you will
>> be back proposing FOSS4G Lima in 2021
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Steven
>>
>> > On 19 Oct 2016, at 06:13, till.adams at fossgis.de [1] wrote:
>> >
>> > even better!
>> >
>> > Till
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Am 2016-10-19 14:12, schrieb David Fawcett:
>> >> I can add that the committee had 100% good intent, but the 16th
>> voter
>> >> (me) made an error in submitting their vote yesterday. Of
>> course, the
>> >> vote shouldnt be counted, but even if it was, it wouldnt have
>> changed
>> >> the overall outcome.
>> >>
>> >> David
>> >>
>> >>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 3:31 AM, <till.adams at fossgis.de [2]
>> [5]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> with that in my eyes we have two results:
>> >>>
>> >>> Bangkok and Dar es Salaam are official candidates and will be
>> >>> pleased to submit a full proposal.
>> >>> I yield to Steven to request this officially from both teams.
>> >>>
>> >>> And we have a functioning committee, as 14 out of 16 members
>> voted,
>> >>> one officially recused - thats a good signal together.
>> >>>
>> >>> Till
>> >>>
>> >>> Am 2016-10-19 10:01, schrieb thomas bonfort:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Dear committee,
>> >>>> I have received a response from 15 out of 16 members, the
>> results
>> >>>> are:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> - Bangkok: 3
>> >>>> - Dar es Salaam: 10
>> >>>> - Lima: 1
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Gavin recused himself as he is on the Dar es Salaam loc.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Best regards,
>> >>>> Thomas (CRO)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Detailed voting tokens:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Bangkok:
>> >>>> tlsdldksdkQk
>> >>>> %29f$Vwv5
>> >>>> no token
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dar es Salaam:
>> >>>> screew
>> >>>> phlematic
>> >>>> astronaut
>> >>>> agriktamo
>> >>>> 477
>> >>>> E2127111
>> >>>> vanigs
>> >>>> 4571
>> >>>> aG7CM9ZADSGhCSyOSaJ0
>> >>>> 6ETI-UIL2-9WAX-XHYO
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Lima:
>> >>>> Turdus merula
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Voters:
>> >>>> CameronS
>> >>>> ClaudeP
>> >>>> DarrelF
>> >>>> DavidB
>> >>>> EliA
>> >>>> JachymC
>> >>>> MariaB
>> >>>> PaulR
>> >>>> PeterB
>> >>>> SangheeS
>> >>>> StevenF
>> >>>> TillA
>> >>>> VasileC
>> >>>> VenkaR
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