[OSGeo-Conf] Decision of Bangkok Team for proposal for FOSS4G 2018

Wed Nov 2 07:33:21 PDT 2016

On Wednesday, November 2, 2016, <till.adams at fossgis.de> wrote:

> Dear Nitin,
>
> also from me - I am very sorry to hear and thank you for your honest
> decision, that gives us the possibility to react somehow on this new
> situation.
>
> Indeed I for myself was little surprised about the publishing of the
> numbers of votes from the LoI phase. I can't remember I ever heard any
> counts of votes for Bonn 2016.

Indeed, the rfp process states the vote won't be disclosed at the loi
stage.  In advance of the vote, Thomas made clear how he was going to run
the vote and no one commented.  In the past, we've not revealed this vote
beyond, "the following loi received two or more votes and are invited to
submit full bids."

> On the other side, I would not overestimate the pre-votes at all. You
> handed in a very good LoI which was in this early stage very realistic.

Agree.  Loi are superficial, you don't really know what to think until the
full proposal and how the loc responds to questions.

Best regards, Eli

>
> Anyhow, it is like it is and we, CC have to decide how to proceed now - as
> Peter already said.
>
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> Till
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> Am 2016-11-01 01:13, schrieb nitin kumar tripathi:
>
>> Decision of Bangkok Team for Proposal in 2nd Stage
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>> --------------
>> Dear Members of the OSGeo Conference Committee,
>>
>> We have received the outcome of voting for the first stage
>> of candidates for hosting FOSS4G 2018. We are happy that we are among
>> the first two out of three countries which proposed. Thanks Steven to
>> ask us to submit proposal for the second stage.
>>
>> We were charged up to host a vibrant conference but the situation
>> has changed since the submission of letter of intent and we have
>> decided to
>> withdraw from the race. The reasons are:
>>
>> a) There is a sudden change in the situation in Thailand due to the
>> sad demise of our very popular longest serving King Rama IX in Mid
>> October. The whole nation is mourning and it is very difficult to get
>> support letters for government, industry and academia in Thailand.
>> b) Government has declared 1 year of mourning and this calls for
>> no festivity and low scale of any event.
>> c) We need some letters of support and sponsorship to include in
>> the proposal, which is unlikely as we can not approach any
>> organisation in the current situation.
>> d) Also, we feel that the Tanzania Team, which has 100,000 USD support
>> from the World Bank, has a rock solid foundation to organise.  I
>> think due to this fact they have also got overwhelming support of 10
>> members compared to our 3. It makes us feel that we are way behind in
>> race. So we wish them best of luck.
>>
>> I humbly appeal to the OSGeo Conference Committee not to disclose the
>> number of votes at *any* stage, for all future votes. The CRO should
>> not share the voting results with anyone, not anyone on the OSGeo
>> Conference Committee or shared in public, ever.  It discourages other
>> teams to try their best in the Stage 2 to put up a strong proposal -
>> the goal is to grow passion, not hinder passion. For example, in this
>> vote, there was no need to share the fact that such a vibrant
>> community like Lima received only 1 vote (this hurts the flame trying
>> to burn in the Peru local community, and also the result can affect
>> future votes as OSGeo Conference Committee members could remember such
>> a result next time). Also potential sponsors may get some inkling and
>> may back-out sensing the impending lack of support in the local
>> committee for the proposal.
>>
>> The Bangkok Team conveys its thanks to all those who have voted for
>> its letter of intent and promises that we will be back with a better
>> proposal for 2021.
>>
>> With best wishes for FOSS4G 2018.
>>
>> DR. NITIN KUMAR TRIPATHI
>>
>> Professor and Director-Special Degree Program
>> School of Engineering and Technology
>>
>> Editor-in-Chief, International Journal of Geoinformatics
>>
>> Asian Institute of Technology
>> P.O. Box:4, Klong Luang, Pathumthani 12120, Thailand, Phone:
>> +66-886021115 (Mobile), +66-2-524 6392 (Office)
>> e-mail: nitingis at gmail.com [16]
>> My Blog:
>> Research Pages:
>> ResearchGate:
>>  https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Nitin_Tripathi/?ev=hdr_xprf
>> [17]
>> GoogleScholar:
>>  http://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&user=BQr_DiEAAAAJ [18]
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Steven Feldman <shfeldman at gmail.com
>> [19]> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you to all of the committee members for your stage 1 votes.
>>>
>>> I confirm that Dar es Salaam and Bangkok received the necessary
>>> votes to proceed to submit a full proposal in accord with the RfP
>>> process and timeline
>>>
>>> Our thanks to the Lima team for your Letter of Intent. I hope that
>>> you will continue to build FOSS4G in South America and that you will
>>> be back proposing FOSS4G Lima in 2021
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Steven
>>>
>>> > On 19 Oct 2016, at 06:13, till.adams at fossgis.de [1] wrote:
>>> >
>>> > even better!
>>> >
>>> > Till
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Am 2016-10-19 14:12, schrieb David Fawcett:
>>> >> I can add that the committee had 100% good intent, but the 16th
>>> voter
>>> >> (me) made an error in submitting their vote yesterday. Of
>>> course, the
>>> >> vote shouldnt be counted, but even if it was, it wouldnt have
>>> changed
>>> >> the overall outcome.
>>> >>
>>> >> David
>>> >>
>>> >>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 3:31 AM, <till.adams at fossgis.de [2]
>>> [5]> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> with that in my eyes we have two results:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Bangkok and Dar es Salaam are official candidates and will be
>>> >>> pleased to submit a full proposal.
>>> >>> I yield to Steven to request this officially from both teams.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> And we have a functioning committee, as 14 out of 16 members
>>> voted,
>>> >>> one officially recused - thats a good signal together.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Till
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Am 2016-10-19 10:01, schrieb thomas bonfort:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Dear committee,
>>> >>>> I have received a response from 15 out of 16 members, the
>>> results
>>> >>>> are:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> - Bangkok: 3
>>> >>>> - Dar es Salaam: 10
>>> >>>> - Lima: 1
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Gavin recused himself as he is on the Dar es Salaam loc.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Best regards,
>>> >>>> Thomas (CRO)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Detailed voting tokens:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Bangkok:
>>> >>>> tlsdldksdkQk
>>> >>>> %29f$Vwv5
>>> >>>> no token
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Dar es Salaam:
>>> >>>> screew
>>> >>>> phlematic
>>> >>>> astronaut
>>> >>>> agriktamo
>>> >>>> 477
>>> >>>> E2127111
>>> >>>> vanigs
>>> >>>> 4571
>>> >>>> aG7CM9ZADSGhCSyOSaJ0
>>> >>>> 6ETI-UIL2-9WAX-XHYO
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Lima:
>>> >>>> Turdus merula
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Voters:
>>> >>>> CameronS
>>> >>>> ClaudeP
>>> >>>> DarrelF
>>> >>>> DavidB
>>> >>>> EliA
>>> >>>> JachymC
>>> >>>> MariaB
>>> >>>> PaulR
>>> >>>> PeterB
>>> >>>> SangheeS
>>> >>>> StevenF
>>> >>>> TillA
>>> >>>> VasileC
>>> >>>> VenkaR
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