[OSGeo-Conf] [Board] Final Result on RfP 2020

Tue Dec 18 11:15:05 PST 2018

Hi Paul,
I wasnt subscribed to the list, so when you clicked the reply to all, the
Conference-dev mailing list was omitted
I just subscribed and sent my request to the Conference Committee members
So I am sending forwarding to the Conference Dev list, in order to keep
mail history complete.

Regards
Vicky

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 1:06 PM Paul Ramsey <pramsey at cleverelephant.ca>
wrote:

> I think the word I was actually reaching for was "debrief". After an RFP
> or a job interview it's expected that the candidates have an opportunity to
> ask for a debrief to understand what is going on.
>
> I didn't vote, but if I had I would have voted for Calgary. As Eli noted
> there were no major show-stoppers on either side, both locations could have
> hosted successfully, based on the submitted bids, so it came down to
> relatively small things.
>
> - Calgary is better connected internationally, and in North America, with
> more direct flights, cheaper flights, to more destinations
> - Calgary arrived with more sponsorship dollars already "in hand", so had
> a lower risk profile
>
> P.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 9:57 AM Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Conference Committee members:
>>
>> On recommendation of Paul Ramsey, and using his terminology
>>
>> As member of the Halifax team:
>> I would like to make a "post-mortem" public request of:
>> Clarifying the details of the results of the second phase.
>> Based on the details of that result I would make or no make a
>> "post-mortem" confidential request for feedback
>>
>> Consider that:
>> From my point of view, 12-1 7-6 make a huge difference
>> As some results like 12-1 for me means: that we, Halifax team, did
>> something really wrong (Would make the "post-mortem" confidential request).
>> As other results like 7-6 , for me means: that we, Halifax team, did a
>> very good job, and the decision was tough.
>>
>> Regards
>> Vicky (member of the Halifax team)
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 10:22 AM Paul Ramsey <pramsey at cleverelephant.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think the numbers, whether 12-1 or 7-6 will be particularly
>>> explanatory. If you want a post-mortem to apply to future bids I'd suggest
>>> approaching committee members on a confidential basis for their feedback on
>>> their personal decision process... I imagine a pattern would emerge (I hope
>>> a pattern would emerge!) after a few conversations.
>>>
>>> P.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:33 AM Vasile Craciunescu <
>>> vasile at geo-spatial.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, traditionally, the results are not made public, only the winner
>>>> is disclosed.
>>>>
>>>> Vasile
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my mobile device
>>>>
>>>> On 18 Dec 2018, at 17:25, Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ah, how much more? 12-1 still worries me
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 9:20 AM Vasile Craciunescu <
>>>> vasile at geo-spatial.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Vicky,
>>>>>
>>>>> The total number of votes is 13. Not all of them went to Calgary. They
>>>>> just got more votes than Halifax.
>>>>>
>>>>> Congratulations to both teams for the impressing proposals.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Vasile
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my mobile device
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18 Dec 2018, at 17:01, Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello all
>>>>> This is Vicky from Halifax team.
>>>>>
>>>>> Congratulations Calgary for the impressive win of 13 votes.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2018-December/005017.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if someone can give some feed back on what we did so, so so
>>>>> wrong that we didn't get any vote?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Vicky
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 8:34 AM María Arias de Reyna <
>>>>> delawen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 2:12 PM michael terner <ternergeo at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1 on Til's fair and accurate response.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Indeed, it was a fair and open process, with only the vote being
>>>>>>> non-public but supervised by two respected CROs. As observed by Til, the
>>>>>>> one "issue" that arose on the recusal was addressed on the public
>>>>>>> Conference Dev mailing list. Actually, the only thing that is not open is
>>>>>>> the origin of the phrase used in Maria's first email today: "there
>>>>>>> has been some concerns raised." Where are these "concerns"
>>>>>>> coming from? When were they raised? Are they limited to the "recusal issue"
>>>>>>> from Venka? If not, what are the additional concerns?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, no additional concerns. Just the one made on the conference dev
>>>>>> mailing list.
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>> Vicky Vergara
>> Operations Research
>>
>> eMail: vicky at georepublic.de
>> Web: https://georepublic.info
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>> Tel: +49 (089) 4161 7698-1
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Vicky Vergara
Operations Research

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