[OSGeo-Conf] Vote stage 1 on RfP 2020 before 19th of October
Cameron Shorter
cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Tue Oct 23 12:48:34 PDT 2018
Maxi,
I feel like the questions below have been covered in detail in prior
debates on this list, and in responding I'm just restating opinions made
before.
I'm responding now to acknowledge that I've heard you, and while I
respect the importance of being able to share one's views, I feel we
don't want to spend all our time debating one topic and not moving onto
more productive things.
Summarising prior points on this topic:
* The large conferences are financially risky for OSGeo and have failed
in the past (FOSS4G Beijing was cancelled)
* Large conferences have many factors to consider in order to become
successful
* They require significant work from the local organising committee
* OSGeo should aim to use trustworthy people, with both the experience
and time commitment, to make decisions about selection of a conference
venue. Typically such people have already spent time running a large
conference.
* To your point of presentation selection, selecting presentations is
less risky and drawing upon the wisdom of crowds is a more effective way
of getting a depth of opinion from our community. Hence, for the last
decade or so, we have adopted what I consider to be an effective
community voting process for presentations.
Maxi, I acknowledge that my response probably doesn't align with your
opinions. But I'm hoping that we can agree to disagree, and in this case
defer to the majority opinion from our current conference committee.
Warm regards, Cameron
On 22/10/18 5:31 am, massimiliano cannata wrote:
> Dear Conference committee,
> after the selection, I pose here some issues I see in the conference
> committee and process.
> I hope to open a constructive discussion toward an always better FOSS4G.
>
> First, I don't understand why the selection of the FOSS4G hosting team
> is restricted to "selected" members only.
> Conversely, the selection of the presentations is open to everyone.
> Why to select a team it is required, "generally", to be considered an
> expert in organizing big events (what is big and what event is still
> to be defined well..) while for selecting which topics are interesting
> and innovative this expertise is not required and anyone con vote?
>
> I also add that I think is very inappropriate to accept presentation
> with "literally" an abstract of two sentences to participate in the
> conference? The votes are then obviously based on "brotherhood" and
> not on specific contents. For example, why "sponsored" presentations
> are not marked as sponsored? Google does it when you do your searches ;-)
>
> Finally, I wonder at how many "big" events the voting members
> participate every year. Do they go around to see what other do, or is
> enough organizing a conference 10 years ago to be considered at the
> state of the art in conference matters?
>
> my 5 cents
>
> Best,
> Maxi
>
>
>
>
> Il giorno lun 15 ott 2018 alle ore 23:57 Cameron Shorter
> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
>
> OSGeo Conference committee,
> I'm forwarding this email onto the conference committee's public
> list to ensure transparency. It was sent to the following voting
> members of the conference committee:
> Eli Adam
> Till Adams
> Peter Batty
> David Bitner
> Maria Brovelli
> Vasile Craciunescu
> David Fawcett
> Steven Feldman
> Gavin Fleming
> Darrell Fuhriman
> Claude Philipona
> Venkatesh Raghavan
> Paul Ramsey
> Sanghee Shin
> Guido Stein
> Michael Terner
> Msilikale Msilanga
> Mark Iliffle
>
> If you have not received this email, and think that you should,
> please publicly speak up before the deadline.
> I've been responding to people as they send their votes in. If you
> don't receive a response, then feel free to chase me.
> So far, we've received votes from:
> Eli Adam
> Maria Brovelli
> Steven Feldman
> Gavin Fleming
> Venkatesh Raghavan
> Paul Ramsey
> Guido Stein
> Michael Terner
> Mark Iliffle
>
> Cheers, Cameron (acting as one of the FOSS4G 2020 CROs)
>
>
> On 13/10/2018 1:32 AM, Till Adams wrote:
>>
>> Dear Voting Members of OSGeo's Conference Committee,
>>
>> I know, it's still some time left today, but as I am on my way
>> back from Barcelona home tomorow, I herewith send out the call on
>> voting on the three phantastic LoI's for hosting FOSS4G 2020,
>> that we received. Due to our timetable in [1] the voting period
>> on the LoI's lasts from 13th to 18th of October (last possible time).
>>
>> So please send your votes to:
>>
>> Arnulf Christl
>>
>> and
>>
>> Cameron Shorter
>>
>> The voting mechanism for stage 1 is as follows: Please vote on
>> *every single* LoI with one thumb up / thumb down each and send
>> your *three* votes to the two guys mentioned above - no of the
>> mails to me, neither CC, nor BCC.
>>
>> Your Email can look as follows:
>>
>> Halifax +1
>>
>> Calgary +1
>>
>> Niagara Falls +1
>>
>> (Of course only in case, that you vote *thumbs up* for all tree
>> ;-). BTW: A vote against can be a "-1" and this is not comparable
>> with the "-1" we know from OSgeo discussions, because here it
>> does not require any reason and/or alternative, it just means
>> "thumb down".... )
>>
>> Please find all relevant information on the WIKI [1]. The teams
>> that receive more +1's than -1's LoI's will pass stage 1.
>>
>> I hope, that ALL of us will send their voting emails to Arnulf
>> and Cameron before the last possibe time on 18th of October 2018
>> passed - as said, we need a strong quorum, especially when there
>> are three teams from one country bidding for the same conference.
>>
>> Regards, Till
>>
>>
>> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2020_Bid_Process
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 07.10.2018 um 08:36 schrieb Till Adams:
>>> Dear Voting members of OSGeo's conference committee!
>>>
>>> This is just a reminder to be prepared to vote on the LoI's on the RfP 2020.
>>>
>>> Please take your time to review the LoI's [1], aks qwuestions on the
>>> conference committee list until 12th of October and then please vote
>>> until 18th of October. I just asked two potential CRO's to assist us for
>>> the voting process, I will send their email-adresses in a seperate email
>>> once they agreed.
>>>
>>> Please remember that choosing the location of future FOSS4G's is your
>>> only duty in the conference committee and remember that it is important
>>> to have the opinion of as many of you as possible so that we can choose
>>> the best location for FOSS4G 2020.
>>>
>>> If you now already know, that you will not be able to rate & vote,
>>> please drop me a note ASAP. After the RfP I will ask the members, that
>>> did not vote, whether they want to remain as voting members or not.
>>>
>>> Regards, Till
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [1]https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2020_Bid_Process
>>>
>>
>
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