[OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G 2020 - Halifax site causing confusion

Sun Dec 1 20:37:19 PST 2019

I agree it is serous, and I recommend adding this to the next board meeting
(ideally conference chair could attend?)

But I also want to say as an organization we do not own the trademark, and
we cannot compel action of an individual. Is this statement you disagree
with?

Perhaps this is a good reason to obtain the foss4g trademark? That would be
my advised course of action. Obtain trademark and ask dot ca to remove this
site.

I also think we could figure out where Jeff is working and phone him.

Any other thoughts on actions (not seriousness) Mark?

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:37 AM Mark Iliffe <markiliffe at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jody,
>
> I’m sorry to disagree so strongly, but i see this is as a severe issue
> that dramatically needs to be resolved with haste.
>
> As a past (co-)chair of a global FOSS4G, i know the focus is to ensure
> that funds are raised and the delegates and sponsors are clear on the
> offering. Right now, this isnt the case as that site does look like Halifax
> is the host, not Calgary.
>
> I would strongly urge the Board to take immediate action to ensure that
> people are as clear as possible on what is being offered. The domain is the
> first step to this.
>
> There are many reasons why time has been taken to resolve this - and as
> someone who spent the first half of this year quite ill and dropped many
> balls - I can understand this...! But, we’re less than a year away, so
> let’s work on resolving this as quickly as possible.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
>
> On 1 Dec 2019, at 22:28, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> k
>
> We do not maintain copyright on foss4g, this is a deliberate choice as I
> understand it. So I do not think we can ask the ca domain to intervene.
>
> As for Jeff being unavailable we like to respect folks volunteer capacity
> and ability to contribute when they have time. We have spent some effort
> working around his in availability as a board.
>
> It is worth bringing this up with the next board meeting. Indeed it may be
> appropriate to go about claiming the foss4g trademark.
>
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 11:39 PM Steven Feldman <shfeldman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Jody
>>
>> Is this a case where the board is the committee that needs to act?
>>
>> Regards
>> Steven
>>
>>
>> +44 (0) 7958 924101
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 1 Dec 2019, at 20:01, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> We do not need a procedure for everything, some troubles will just need
>> to be handled if they occur.
>>
>> I do not intend to dismiss your interest, osgeo committees are empowered
>> to act and remove individuals who are not welcome. Indeed we ask that all
>> committees / projects / events have a code of conduct.
>>
>> In the August F2F
>> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/images/7/7d/Face_to_Face_Meeting_2019_Bucharest.pdf>
>> meeting we discussed establishing a black list for individuals who are not
>> welcome at our events, and a "gray list" for individuals who we "wanted to
>> talk with" before they attended one of our events again. The kindest way we
>> could think to handle this is to ask the individual to sign a the code of
>> conduct (so there could be no miscommunication with respect to behaviour).
>>
>> Individual committees can also control their membership with a motion,
>> projects can adjust an individuals commit access, and so forth. To
>> specifically answer your question the board is in position to update the
>> charter members list (and is supposed to do so as a result of inactivity).
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 at 20:08, Steven Feldman <shfeldman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Haven’t seen a response yet and I note that as of now the foss4g.ca site
>>> is still up. That is disappointing to say the least.
>>>
>>> I have copied in Karine Jean who was the co-chair of the Halifax bid
>>> using the email on her OSGeo listing, perhaps she can remove the Halifax
>>> site or ask Jeff to do so or explain why they think it should remain almost
>>> a year after the decision was made to award to Calgary not Halifax?
>>>
>>> *A question for the board*: Do we have any procedure for revoking
>>> Charter Membership in the event of behaviour that we consider to be in
>>> conflict with OSGeo principles? I am not suggesting that this is the case
>>> re Halifax web site but I think it prompts the question of what
>>> would/should we do if a CM is considered to have possibly gone rogue?
>>> ______
>>> Steven
>>>
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>>> On 29 Nov 2019, at 22:14, Jonathan Neufeld <jneufeld at tecterra.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I apologize for sending this through the Conference_Dev list, however
>>> I’ve been trying to reach Jeff McKenna for the past month with no success.
>>> If I am out of line here, please let me know.
>>>
>>> Jeff - I’m following up again on my request to take down your Halifax
>>> FOSS4G site at https://foss4g.ca/.
>>>
>>> As I have previously mentioned, the Halifax site is causing confusion
>>> with some members of the community.
>>>
>>> In the spirit of open collaboration and building towards a successful
>>> event, we are *requesting that you take down the site for Halifax 2020
>>> which is making a false claim of hosting FOSS4G 2020 and sowing confusion
>>> amongst potential participants.*
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>> JONATHAN NEUFELD
>>> CO-CHAIR
>>> FOSS4G 2020 CALGARY
>>> http://2020.foss4g.org/
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