[OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G 2020 - Halifax site causing confusion
Jérôme St-Louis
jerome at ecere.com
Sun Dec 1 20:49:22 PST 2019
Jody,
AFAIK Jeff works from his home office and his phone number is listed at
https://gatewaygeomatics.com/contact.html
I question whether obtaining trademark to FOSS4G is possible after it
having been freely used in the general sense of Free and Open Source
Software for Geospatial in a general sense for many years?
However, on foss4g.ca both OSGeo - Ottawa and OSGeo - Quebec names and
logos are featured, and both chapters have officially called to
re-direct, take down the content, or clarify the fact that the FOSS4G
2020 takes place in Calgary, not Halifax.
That could be ground enough for .ca to take action?
The name/logo of OSGeo itself is also part of those chapters logo, and
that may already be trademarked?
Best regards,
-Jerome
On 12/1/19 11:37 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
> I agree it is serous, and I recommend adding this to the next board
> meeting (ideally conference chair could attend?)
>
> But I also want to say as an organization we do not own the trademark,
> and we cannot compel action of an individual. Is this statement you
> disagree with?
>
> Perhaps this is a good reason to obtain the foss4g trademark? That
> would be my advised course of action. Obtain trademark and ask dot ca
> to remove this site.
>
> I also think we could figure out where Jeff is working and phone him.
>
> Any other thoughts on actions (not seriousness) Mark?
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:37 AM Mark Iliffe <markiliffe at gmail.com
> <mailto:markiliffe at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi Jody,
>
> I’m sorry to disagree so strongly, but i see this is as a severe
> issue that dramatically needs to be resolved with haste.
>
> As a past (co-)chair of a global FOSS4G, i know the focus is to
> ensure that funds are raised and the delegates and sponsors are
> clear on the offering. Right now, this isnt the case as that site
> does look like Halifax is the host, not Calgary.
>
> I would strongly urge the Board to take immediate action to ensure
> that people are as clear as possible on what is being offered. The
> domain is the first step to this.
>
> There are many reasons why time has been taken to resolve this -
> and as someone who spent the first half of this year quite ill and
> dropped many balls - I can understand this...! But, we’re less
> than a year away, so let’s work on resolving this as quickly as
> possible.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
>
>> On 1 Dec 2019, at 22:28, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com
>> <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> k
>> We do not maintain copyright on foss4g, this is a deliberate
>> choice as I understand it. So I do not think we can ask the ca
>> domain to intervene.
>>
>> As for Jeff being unavailable we like to respect folks volunteer
>> capacity and ability to contribute when they have time. We have
>> spent some effort working around his in availability as a board.
>>
>> It is worth bringing this up with the next board meeting. Indeed
>> it may be appropriate to go about claiming the foss4g trademark.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 11:39 PM Steven Feldman
>> <shfeldman at gmail.com <mailto:shfeldman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Jody
>> ,
>> Is this a case where the board is the committee that needs to
>> act?
>>
>> Regards
>> Steven
>>
>>
>> +44 (0) 7958 924101
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 1 Dec 2019, at 20:01, Jody Garnett
>>> <jody.garnett at gmail.com <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> We do not need a procedure for everything, some troubles
>>> will just need to be handled if they occur.
>>>
>>> I do not intend to dismiss your interest, osgeo committees
>>> are empowered to act and remove individuals who are not
>>> welcome. Indeed we ask that all committees / projects /
>>> events have a code of conduct.
>>>
>>> In the August F2F
>>> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/images/7/7d/Face_to_Face_Meeting_2019_Bucharest.pdf>
>>> meeting we discussed establishing a black list for
>>> individuals who are not welcome at our events, and a "gray
>>> list" for individuals who we "wanted to talk with" before
>>> they attended one of our events again. The kindest way we
>>> could think to handle this is to ask the individual to sign
>>> a the code of conduct (so there could be no
>>> miscommunication with respect to behaviour).
>>>
>>> Individual committees can also control their membership with
>>> a motion, projects can adjust an individuals commit access,
>>> and so forth. To specifically answer your question the board
>>> is in position to update the charter members list (and is
>>> supposed to do so as a result of inactivity).
>>> --
>>> Jody Garnett
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 at 20:08, Steven Feldman
>>> <shfeldman at gmail.com <mailto:shfeldman at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Haven’t seen a response yet and I note that as of now
>>> the foss4g.ca <http://foss4g.ca> site is still up. That
>>> is disappointing to say the least.
>>>
>>> I have copied in Karine Jean who was the co-chair of the
>>> Halifax bid using the email on her OSGeo listing,
>>> perhaps she can remove the Halifax site or ask Jeff to
>>> do so or explain why they think it should remain almost
>>> a year after the decision was made to award to Calgary
>>> not Halifax?
>>>
>>> *A question for the board*: Do we have any procedure for
>>> revoking Charter Membership in the event of behaviour
>>> that we consider to be in conflict with OSGeo
>>> principles? I am not suggesting that this is the case re
>>> Halifax web site but I think it prompts the question of
>>> what would/should we do if a CM is considered to have
>>> possibly gone rogue?
>>> ______
>>> Steven
>>>
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>>>> On 29 Nov 2019, at 22:14, Jonathan Neufeld
>>>> <jneufeld at tecterra.com <mailto:jneufeld at tecterra.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> I apologize for sending this through the Conference_Dev
>>>> list, however I’ve been trying to reach Jeff McKenna
>>>> for the past month with no success. If I am out of line
>>>> here, please let me know.
>>>> Jeff - I’m following up again on my request to take
>>>> down your Halifax FOSS4G site athttps://foss4g.ca/.
>>>> As I have previously mentioned, the Halifax site is
>>>> causing confusion with some members of the community.
>>>> In the spirit of open collaboration and building
>>>> towards a successful event, we are*requesting that you
>>>> take down the site for Halifax 2020 which is making a
>>>> false claim of hosting FOSS4G 2020 and sowing confusion
>>>> amongst potential participants.*
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jon
>>>> JONATHAN NEUFELD
>>>> CO-CHAIR
>>>> FOSS4G 2020 CALGARY
>>>> http://2020.foss4g.org/
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