[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4G 2007 Workshop Submission

Jeroen Ticheler Jeroen.Ticheler at fao.org
Thu Mar 29 08:15:58 PDT 2007

Hi Paul,
Hard not to be frustrated if I look at the closed ranking/review  
process, the final list that includes non-OSGEO workshops and the  
fact that no consultation has taken place with workshop submitters on  
possible alternatives. Just the blunt email that closes the door.

On Mar 29, 2007, at 4:29 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote:

> Jeroen,
> I appreciate your frustration, and I know it is shared by many  
> others, as only 12 of the 34 3-hour workshop submissions could be  
> hosted.  The criteria the workshop committee used in their  
> evaluation are here:
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/ 
> FOSS4G2007_Workshops#Criteria_used_by_the_workshop_committee_to_review 
> _workshop_submissions
> All the committee members ranked the submissions on those criteria  
> and the rankings were averaged.  Two workshops in the top 12 that  
> were topic duplicates were removed and the next-lowest-ranked non- 
> duplicates were moved up.  It appears that being on the committee  
> is no guarantee of satisfaction with the final result. The average  
> of a bunch of lists people want is a list that no one is 100% happy  
> with.
> Paul
> On 28-Mar-07, at 10:36 PM, Jeroen Ticheler wrote:
>> Dear people,
>> Thank you for your information. I have to say I find that pretty  
>> frustrating and annoying knowing that GeoNetwork opensource is one  
>> of the incubator projects of OSGEO, the number of OSGEO projects  
>> is (still) limited and FOSS4G is the OSGEO conference.
>> Participating with the project in OSGEO has multiple reasons, one  
>> of them being that it provides opportunities to work on synergies  
>> and work on marketing the OSGEO software stack. Now how does the  
>> intent of OSGEOs mission fit with refusing a (single) workshop on  
>> one of its projects. Maybe I miss something, but I'd assumed there  
>> was at least some kind of a relation!?
>> Looking forward to some good feedback and discussion on this, also  
>> on the OSGEO mailing list as I consider that discussion very  
>> relevant in the further development of outreach strategies for  
>> ourselves and the OSGEO foundation through conferences.
>> Core question:
>> "Should OSGEO projects have guaranteed workshop and presentation  
>> space for at least one session?"
>> Regards,
>> Jeroen
>> On Mar 28, 2007, at 5:58 PM, FOSS4G 2007 wrote:
>>> Dear Jeroen Ticheler,
>>> We regret to inform you that we will not be able to accept your  
>>> Half Day
>>> workshop, "Using the GeoNetwork opensource Spatial Data Catalog",  
>>> for the
>>> FOSS4G 2007 program.  We had a very large number of submissions  
>>> this year, and
>>>  have been able to accept less than half of them
>>> .
>>> We hope you will consider bringing some of your ideas to the  
>>> conference in the
>>>  form of a presentation. The Call for Presentations is currently  
>>> open, and
>>> there is room for 120 presentations at the conference this year
>>> .
>>> http://www.foss4g2007.org/presentations
>>> Yours,
>>> The FOSS4G 2007 Conference Committee
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