[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4G 2007 Workshop Submission

[Allan Doyle]

I count 12 projects on the slightly twitchy osgeo.org home page. I  
would agree that osgeo projects should be given a strong preference  
if not an automatic slot. With 12 workshops, it's hard to see why  
each project doesn't get a slot.

	Allan

On Mar 29, 2007, at 11:15, Jeroen Ticheler wrote:

> Hi Paul,
> Hard not to be frustrated if I look at the closed ranking/review  
> process, the final list that includes non-OSGEO workshops and the  
> fact that no consultation has taken place with workshop submitters  
> on possible alternatives. Just the blunt email that closes the door.
> Jeroen
>
> On Mar 29, 2007, at 4:29 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>
>> Jeroen,
>>
>> I appreciate your frustration, and I know it is shared by many  
>> others, as only 12 of the 34 3-hour workshop submissions could be  
>> hosted.  The criteria the workshop committee used in their  
>> evaluation are here:
>>
>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/ 
>> FOSS4G2007_Workshops#Criteria_used_by_the_workshop_committee_to_revie 
>> w_workshop_submissions
>>
>> All the committee members ranked the submissions on those criteria  
>> and the rankings were averaged.  Two workshops in the top 12 that  
>> were topic duplicates were removed and the next-lowest-ranked non- 
>> duplicates were moved up.  It appears that being on the committee  
>> is no guarantee of satisfaction with the final result. The average  
>> of a bunch of lists people want is a list that no one is 100%  
>> happy with.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 28-Mar-07, at 10:36 PM, Jeroen Ticheler wrote:
>>
>>> Dear people,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your information. I have to say I find that pretty  
>>> frustrating and annoying knowing that GeoNetwork opensource is  
>>> one of the incubator projects of OSGEO, the number of OSGEO  
>>> projects is (still) limited and FOSS4G is the OSGEO conference.
>>>
>>> Participating with the project in OSGEO has multiple reasons, one  
>>> of them being that it provides opportunities to work on synergies  
>>> and work on marketing the OSGEO software stack. Now how does the  
>>> intent of OSGEOs mission fit with refusing a (single) workshop on  
>>> one of its projects. Maybe I miss something, but I'd assumed  
>>> there was at least some kind of a relation!?
>>>
>>> Looking forward to some good feedback and discussion on this,  
>>> also on the OSGEO mailing list as I consider that discussion very  
>>> relevant in the further development of outreach strategies for  
>>> ourselves and the OSGEO foundation through conferences.
>>>
>>> Core question:
>>>
>>> "Should OSGEO projects have guaranteed workshop and presentation  
>>> space for at least one session?"
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jeroen
>>>
>>> On Mar 28, 2007, at 5:58 PM, FOSS4G 2007 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Jeroen Ticheler,
>>>>
>>>> We regret to inform you that we will not be able to accept your  
>>>> Half Day
>>>> workshop, "Using the GeoNetwork opensource Spatial Data  
>>>> Catalog", for the
>>>> FOSS4G 2007 program.  We had a very large number of submissions  
>>>> this year, and
>>>>  have been able to accept less than half of them
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> We hope you will consider bringing some of your ideas to the  
>>>> conference in the
>>>>  form of a presentation. The Call for Presentations is currently  
>>>> open, and
>>>> there is room for 120 presentations at the conference this year
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> http://www.foss4g2007.org/presentations
>>>>
>>>> Yours,
>>>>
>>>> The FOSS4G 2007 Conference Committee
>>>>
>>>
>>
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