[OSGeo-Discuss] on Google Code and export restrictions
Alex Mandel
tech_dev at wildintellect.com
Wed May 28 01:55:14 PDT 2008
P Kishor wrote:
> On 5/27/08, Chris Puttick <chris.puttick at thehumanjourney.net> wrote:
>> ----- "Frank Warmerdam" <warmerdam at pobox.com> wrote:
>> > Dave Patton wrote:
>> > > Frank Warmerdam wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I agree that we ought to consider developing a similar policy to
>> > >> Apache's. I'll add an agenda item for the next board meeting to
>> > >> start digging into this.
>> > >
>> > > One item for discussion would be what takes place
>> > > when a project enters incubation. Do they "opt in"
>> > > to the OSGeo policy? If they don't, are they then
>> > > excluded from being an OSGeo project? Can they
>> > > "opt in", and yet maintain their own project
>> > > infrastructure (website, svn, download links, etc.)
>> > > on servers in another country, and have access
>> > > to that infrastructure be subject to policies that
>> > > may conflict with the OSGeo policy?
>> >
>> > Dave,
>> >
>> > Projects going through incubation are allowed to maintain their own
>> > distinct infrastructure, wherever they want for the most part. But
>> > they are still board as a project to follow OSGeo policy and obey
>> > applicable US laws even if their download server (for instance) is
>> > not in the US.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > --
>> > ---------------------------------------+--------------------------------------
>> > I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam,
>> > warmerdam at pobox.com
>> > light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam
>> > and watch the world go round - Rush | President OSGeo,
>> > http://osgeo.org
>> >
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>>
>>
>> Then I respectfully suggest, insofar as some recent US laws are at a level of paranoia that might prevent some open source software from actually being open. that OSGeo should consider reconstituting itself in a country that is less totalitarian in its attitudes.
>
>
> Easy now. Prefixing "respectfully" to assertions of "paranoia" and
> "totalitarian" to a country whose funding and work gave rise to
> MapServer is not a good strategy. In fact, it would be difficult to
> conceive of open source itself without the contributions of this
> "totalitarian" and "paranoid" country.
>
> National-level security-related policy decisions are not usually made
> with consideration of their impact on every conceivable issue. The key
> is to constructively find a way around it, which many on this list are
> trying to do. I am sure OSGeo is not the first group to face this
> situation.
>
> For starters, I am asking around with my policy-contacts to see what
> light they can shed on this.
>
>
>
>> Regards
>>
>> Chris
>>
I seem to recall other projects dealing with this in the past too. Like
there were 2 different netscape downloads one for in the US and one for
outside the US possibly with the ssl library removed due to restrictions
on encryption tool export.
Alex
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