[OSGeo-Discuss] Confusion in the FOSS4G brand [was Mapnik (GPX) vs MapServer/GeoServer (OGC)] [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Frans Thamura frans at meruvian.org
Fri Nov 18 00:03:54 PST 2011


based on history

who will manage the domain, and what is the different between global FOSS4G
event vs country's chapter FOSS4G?

and how a local chapter event can be show in foss4g.org




On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Venkatesh Raghavan <
raghavan at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp> wrote:

>  Mori-san,
>
> Nice to relive the 2004 Bangkok nostalgia!
>
> And FOSS4G related papers that we co-authored back in 2004 that can be
> viewed at the links below;
>
>
> http://dlisv03.media.osaka-cu.ac.jp/infolib/user_contents/kiyo/DB00011169.pdf
> http://gisws.media.osaka-cu.ac.jp/grass04/viewpaper.php?id=35
>
> And the more about the history of foss4g.org domain in thread below;
>
> http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2007-October/000405.html
> http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2007-August/000379.html
>
> Best
>
> Venka
>
>
> On 2011/11/18 15:20, "Toru Mori (森 亮)" wrote:
>
> Bruce,
>
> Venka used the word "FOSS4G" in 2004 in Bangkok Thailand first time ever on
> globe, 2 years before the international conference in Lausanne. (Please see
> attached photo)
> As a person co-working with Venka (inventor of "FOSS4G") for many years, I know
> he says that FOSS4G can be used by everybody who promotes "foss4g tools". So
> there is no restriction in using "FOSS4G" brand as long as promoting foss4g tools.
> It has been already used by many local chapters, conferences and communities.
> FOSS4G belongs to wider community, not to just only one "regal organization".
>
> If you think "FOSS4G" should be used for only "international conference", I
> would suggest you come up with another naming, instead of FOSS4G.
>
> Toru Mori
> OSGeo Japan/ Organizer of FOSS4G 2008-2011 Tokyo/Osaka
>
> On 2011/11/18, at 14:13, Bruce Bannerman wrote:
>
> > I don’t like the idea of having multiple variants to the FOSS4G name.
> >
> > I believe that it weakens and detracts from the value of FOSS4G as **the**
> > international event that brings open source spatial people together in a
> > ‘gathering of the tribes’.
> >
> > As a former organiser of FOSS4G-2009, if I was faced with the opportunity to
> > again host the prestigious FOSS4G event, as things stand at present I would
> > not get involved. This is due to the weakening of the brand and confusion in
> > the marketplace. For example, do I go to FOSS4G, FOSS4G.AU, FOSS4G.US,
> > FOSS4G.UK, FOSS4G.ID etc etc? What is the difference between them?
> >
> >
> > We have colleagues who are trying to organise FOSS4G-2012. All of this
> > discussion is making their job much, much harder than it needs to be.
> >
> > Lets get behind them and support their hard work. It is certainly not easy to
> > organise such an event and takes considerable effort and devotion.
> >
> >
> > By all means hold regional events. These are very important for spreading
> > information.
> >
> > But please let’s find a different name.
> >
> >
> > Bruce Bannerman
> >
> >
> >
> > On 18/11/11 3:38 PM, "Frans Thamura"
> <frans at meruvian.org
> > <frans at meruvian.org> <mailto:frans at meruvian.org> <frans at meruvian.org>> wrote:
> >
> > got another idea
> >
> > should we buy foss4g.or.id <http://foss4g.or.id> <http://foss4g.or.id> for indonesia, and foss4g.jp
> > <http://foss4g.jp> <http://foss4g.jp> for japan?
> >
> > but i love have a consolidation work together
> >
> > F
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org> <frans at meruvian.org> wrote:
> > > i want to bring FOSS4G to bigger one, all related to GIS.. but based on Open.
> >
> > I definitely second this.
> > Without this concept, we would be isolated ourself from whole geospatial ocean.
> >
> >
> > thx toru-san ..
> >
> > that will be honour for me to create FOSS4G Indonesia, i believe can start
> > next year.. :)
> >
> > this is bigger scope and better value to conduct it
> >
> > but i still get unanswer question regarding to FOSS4G.org, why tokyo and osaka
> > & korea are not in the website.
> >
> > which venka said that open to anyone to create local event using FOSS4G name.
> >
> > I think that will be cool, if here we can have subdomain, like jp.foss4g.org
> > <http://jp.foss4g.org> <http://jp.foss4g.org> or id.foss4g.org <http://id.foss4g.org> <http://id.foss4g.org> (indonesia)
> >
> > so all consolidated there..
> >
> > any idea for this request
> >
> > and i see also foss4g.org <http://foss4g.org> <http://foss4g.org> main website need touch to make
> > it better, to bring wave to the world.
> >
> > any idea all?
> >
> > F
> >
> >
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