[OSGeo-Discuss] Call for Papers for FOSS4G 2013 Academic Track

Fri Jan 25 10:37:24 PST 2013

Just a quick reply:

1- we did publish the Call for Papers, with the current setup, already in
October last year. Details about the publication outlets and numbers we
aim for (8-10 in Transactions of GIS and 10-12 in OSGEO Journal) are in
there, and were on the website from that time. We did set this up  in
consultation with a group of people, a core group we call Academic Track
committee (mostly organizers of previous Academic Tracks).

2- we did look at the previous efforts and in fact copied much of it. What
did change was the intention to have publication outlets secured
beforehand, and that indeed moved the deadlines forward.

3- papers were published in some years: some 2011 conference papers
appeared in the OSGeo Journal Volume 10, published in February 2012; some
2009 papers in volume 8 (Feb 2011); We wanted to have this better
organised, and that wish was actually coming from the OSGEO board: In the
MOU with the ICA this was one of the points discussed and in fact this
resulted in OSGEO asking me to organize this for the 2012 Beijing
conference (which never took of).

4- Note that anyone wanting so, can register themselves as Reviewer on the
Submission site (2013.foss4g.org/ojs/);  The list of reviewers we have
invited specifically (let's call that the the scientific committee) was
constructed in discussions with the smaller AT group and the LOC, so as to
at least have a large enough group of people with a varied knowledge
field. There's  some 50 people on this list, and those that accept will be
published soon on the site.

Yours,
Barend Köbben

On 25-01-13 17:58, "nicolas bozon" <nicolas.bozon at gmail.com> wrote:

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>Hello,
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>Thanks for discussing this important topic.
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>The last global FOSS4G editions gathered on average 800+ attendees i
>think. I have no clues on how many of them sumitted or attended the
>academic track, but i know that this side of the conference is really
>important, and that the rules should not be changed
> without discussion or without some voting by the Academic and Conference
>comitees. Of course it won't necessarly bring some new sponsors or direct
>business output each year, but it has been part of FOSS4G since its
>inception in 2006, and even before, from
> 2004 since the first GRASS and MapServer meetings, with all the
>motivated activists, developers, researchers and professors we know.
>Also there are so many active people that are using, developping and
>promoting the use of FOSS4G in academia, education and research nowadays,
>so the academic session should be improved, or at least not be changed
>like this, IMHO.
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>An important point is that the Academic Commitee was always formed before
>the call for Abstract and the selection and reviewing process, as Maxi
>and Venka pointed out.
>I've participated to the academic track since 2008, and once again as
>Maxi said, i've also always sumitted an abstract first, then been acepted
>or rejected by the comitee, and then finally submited a full paper (or a
>poster) some time before the conference.
>After that, none of my papers were published in any journals (ok, may be
>they were bad i reckon, but what about the others ?). I know that that
>there were a few intiatitives to publish some of the papers, but i could
>never read the academic FOSS4G procedings
> in any scientific journals i know (i'm may be wrong once again, but
>could someone bring some facts on this ? How many papers where finally
>published since 2006 and where ?), or may be in the OSGeo journal i just
>don't know, sorry.
>
>This being said, i fully understand that calling, selecting, reviewing
>and publishing papers takes a long time. This is really true, but what
>the LOC is targeting this time ? How many papers could be really
>published ? What journal exactly ? Should i subscribe
> to the University of Sherwood to be hopefully published (private joke) ?
>And who will take care of this very time-consuming task ? Who is being
>called for particpating to the Academic comittee (would it be public soon
>btw) ? Who will organize and chair the different sessions of the Academic
>Track exactly ? I'm sorry for so much
> questions, but i think that would be interesting to know right now for
>submiters or potential authors, before one week, before trying to submit
>in fact.
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>Anyway, i'm also thinking that these new rules and such a short deadline
>would just refrain submissions to the Academic track, and would finally
>make it poorer. I think that many professors, researchers and students
>won't sumit or will be more comfortable with
> subitting to the general track, just to avoid impossible deadlines and
>writing efforts, not being sure to be published somewhere. That'd just be
>a pitty.
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>Sorry for such a long email
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>Best regards,
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>Nick
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>2013/1/25 Massimiliano Cannata <massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch>
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>Hi,
>FWIW, I have to say that as far as i remember (and I participate at all
>of the FOSS4G meeting from Bangkok to Denver) I always:
>- submitted and abstract,
>- got acceptance or not as presenter,
>- provided a paper for proceeding, and if selected for publication.
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>In Denver this process led me to a publication in 2012 and the deadline
>was "31 Jul 2011, Full Paper (Academic Track) submission deadline", and
>the academic committee was set
> far before of this.
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>Said that, I know I'm not forced to submit scientific works to the
>scientific track (and this is what i'm going to do), but it is still a
>pity from my point of view to set possible
> barriers and loose contribution.
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>That's just my 2 cents.
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>Massimiliano
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