[OSGeo-Discuss] Call for Papers for FOSS4G 2013 Academic Track
Massimiliano Cannata
massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
Mon Jan 28 09:35:17 PST 2013
Hi all,
I step back too.
I don't want to rise problems or whatever, and I think that LOC can decide
what they think is better, and.... after all its their conference ;-)
I have already clearly stated my point of view, and I have just to add that
in Denver the Journal was the same that is proposed for Nottingam (TGIS)
and in my opinion publishing 6 months after the conference is not a drama.
My little 1 cents..
Maxi
but just remind that the conference of Sept. 2013 in my opinion should
present work done in 2013 an
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com
> wrote:
> Hi Jo,
>
> Indeed I fully agree with you.
>
> There seemed to be some confusion on past vs present. My goal was only
> to clear that up.
>
> I'll step back and let the Academic committee decide on all that.
>
> -jeff
>
>
>
> On 13-01-28 10:59 AM, Jo Cook wrote:
> > Hi Jeff and the rest of the list,
> >
> > I'm speaking from a position of ignorance about this, but surely the
> > academic track submission process will need to change from year to year
> > depending on the journal that papers are to be submitted to? Surely the
> > process is driven mainly by the demands and deadlines of the journal,
> > rather than any arbitrary date chosen by a committee?
> >
> > I think the only way you could set the dates and process in stone would
> > be to guarantee publication in the same journal each year (as well as
> > the OSGeo journal).
> >
> > Happy to be corrected on any of these points though!
> >
> > Jo
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Jeff McKenna
> > <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com <mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Here's another thought for our "lessons learned" wiki: For the next
> > FOSS4G event, the first step in the Academic submission process
> could be
> > an "extended abstract" due for something like Feb 1st. How I am
> coming
> > up with that idea? On this past Friday was a deadline for a
> "CoastGIS"
> > event, and all presentation abstracts were to follow an "extended"
> > abstract template (min 2 pages max 4 pages, including listing your
> > peer-reviewed sources); selected extended abstracts will be invited
> to
> > submit full papers. Could this be the first step someday for a
> FOSS4G
> > Academic track? I've leave that to the FOSS4G Academic leaders to
> > discuss (again I am not one of those leaders).
> >
> > For the record here was the "extended" abstract template (sorry for
> the
> > M$ file, I have no relation to this event):
> >
> http://coinatlantic.ca/coastgis2013/docs/CoastGIS_2013_Extended_Abstract_Template.doc
> >
> > Thanks for listening.
> >
> > -jeff
> >
> >
> >
> > On 13-01-27 11:49 AM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
> > > Hello Barend, Venka, Andy, Max, Nick, and Puneet,
> > >
> > > First I want to thank the Academic chairs Barend and Franz-Josef
> for
> > > volunteering for the management of the difficult process of the
> > > selection of papers for the FOSS4G 2013 event. I am impressed by
> > their
> > > passion and dedication to getting papers published in the
> Transactions
> > > in GIS journal, this is very important.
> > >
> > > I want to make a strong reminder to all of the FOSS4G 2013 local
> > > committee (academic or otherwise) to make sure to be adding to your
> > > "Lessons Learned" wiki page as you travel down this path (the time
> > to be
> > > adding thoughts is now not later when you have forgotten: as a
> > > documenter, I know those that say "oh I'll do that later" never
> > ever do,
> > > ever). Please begin writing your thoughts for 2013 at:
> > > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2013_Lessons_Learned You will
> > notice
> > > that is is blank for 2013. These thoughts are very important to
> > share,
> > > as future local committees will be reviewing these (take a look at
> all
> > > the wonderful lessons learned from previous events linked from that
> > > page, really wonderful to have). Thank you, and future event
> > committees
> > > will thank you.
> > >
> > > Regarding the Academic track call for papers for 2013, of course
> > we must
> > > respect the local committees decisions. I am listening to Barend's
> > > thoughts, as well as long-time FOSS4G academic leaders like Venka
> and
> > > Massimiliano. I feel that the 2013 committee could consider their
> > > feedback, and possibly extend the deadline by a month to March
> > 1st. It
> > > would give researchers some breathing room to prepare their papers,
> > > which, yes is earlier than past FOSS4G events but if we all want
> > papers
> > > within these journals we must respect these early deadlines. Of
> > course
> > > the local committee doesn't have to make an extension, I am only
> > making
> > > a suggestion.
> > >
> > > Another idea, or reminder, I have for the committee is to be as
> > open as
> > > possible; for example, there is a mailing list setup just for
> FOSS4G
> > > Academic discussions (I believe this was probably last used in
> > 2010, but
> > > it is there to discuss openly with academic FOSS4G leaders).
> Again,
> > > there is no official requirement for local committees to use these
> > > mailing lists.
> > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/foss4g-academic
> > >
> > > Finally, I just now went back to examine the FOSS4G 2011 Academic
> > Track
> > > process used. In fact that year I was also on the Academic
> Selection
> > > committee, which was led wonderfully by the hard-working Rafael
> > Moreno.
> > > On February 1st a "Call for Papers" was released for the Academic
> > > track, and the call was actually for abstracts (yes google
> > archives can
> > > trick you sometimes, as the title was for "Call for Papers" but if
> you
> > > read the release the first step was abstract submission). The
> > deadline
> > > for academic abstracts was April 15th. We received approximately
> 60
> > > academic abstracts (note that the day before the deadline, on April
> > > 14th, we only had 9 submissions so far - Paul Ramsey would be
> nodding
> > > his head at this, as this is very common, the many submitted right
> at
> > > the deadline). Rafael then instructed us to have our abstract
> > rankings
> > > back to him by May 16th. From those rankings the plan was: the
> > top 11 +
> > > 2 (backup) were invited to submit a paper for TGIS; the next 11 + 2
> > > (backup) were invited to submit a paper for the OSGeo Journal.
> > > According to my email archives the deadline for those full papers
> was
> > > July 30th; and we received a total of 17 full papers. The rest
> > > (history) should be discussed on the FOSS4G Academic list with the
> > > academic leaders (I am not one), but I hope this little history
> > summary
> > > helps the 2013 committee move forward.
> > >
> > > Again thanks for the hard work of the 2013 local committee.
> > >
> > > And thank you all for your FOSS4G passion (Puneet was right to put
> it
> > > all in perspective).
> > >
> > > -jeff
> > > OSGeo President
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 13-01-25 7:26 AM, b.j.kobben at utwente.nl
> > <mailto:b.j.kobben at utwente.nl> wrote:
> > >> Dear Venka and Massimiliano,
> > >>
> > >> I feel we have to defend the Foss4G2013 AT a bit here (as AT
> > co-chairs we
> > >> should ;-)
> > >>
> > >> It is actually not true that "Previous FOSS4G's had abstract
> > review by the
> > >> academic committee
> > >> and selected authors were asked to submit full papers closer to
> the
> > >> conference dates."
> > >> Both in the 2010 and 2011 conferences we had submission of full
> > papers,
> > >> not abstracts.
> > >>
> > >> The reason for this is that academics nowadays need to publish,
> > if we want
> > >> or not, and that means we have to offer a possibility of official
> > >> publishing for the AT papers. The only way to achieve that is
> > have journal
> > >> outlets secured well beforehand and for that you need to set up a
> > "Journal
> > >> Type" submission and reviewing system, which means selection of
> full
> > >> papers. Having to first select promising abstract, then ask these
> > people
> > >> to write full papers, and then have these properly peer-reviewed,
> all
> > >> before the conference publication deadline, would mean we'd need
> > an even
> > >> earlier deadline.
> > >> This by the way is nowadays accepted academic practice at
> > conferences that
> > >> offer Jopurnal publication outputs.
> > >>
> > >> I agree that 7 months before the conference seems like a very
> early
> > >> deadline, but for the reviewing process, the editing and
> > processing of
> > >> accepted papers and preparation of manuscripts for publication, it
> > >> actually is quite a tight time table. Note that the advantage is
> > that if
> > >> your paper is accepted, you are assured of it being actually
> > published at
> > >> the conference date, something may academics are keen for...
> > >>
> > >> Note also that the normal (non AT) tracks at Foss4G continue to
> offer
> > >> submission and reviewing based on abstracts.
> > >>
> > >> We will have this year (as in previous years) an Academic
> > Committee. These
> > >> are the people that will be asked to do the full paper reviewing,
> > and we
> > >> have just this week invited candidates and have asked them to
> > agree to do
> > >> this important task. The list will appear on the site once the
> > reviewing
> > >> process starts.
> > >>
> > >> I hope this answers some of your questions.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> For further questions, comments and remarks, please don't
> hesitate to
> > >> contact the Academic Track co-chairs:
> > >>
> > >> * Franz-Josef Behr (Stuttgart University of Applied Sciences):
> > >> franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de
> > <mailto:franz-josef.behr at hft-stuttgart.de>
> > >> * Barend Köbben (ITC-University of Twente): kobben at itc.nl
> > <mailto:kobben at itc.nl>
> >
> >
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*Massimiliano Cannata*
Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica
Responsabile settore Geomatica
Istituto scienze della Terra
Dipartimento ambiente costruszione e design
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