[OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo
Jeff McKenna
jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com
Sun Sep 14 09:18:43 PDT 2014
Thanks for letting us/me know about this plan Claude, it is really
wonderful that you are planning a 10-year FOSS4G reunion event in
Lausanne. I encourage all communities that are thinking of hosting 2016
to begin preparing their bids, and we will make sure to get the 2016 bid
out shortly.
Talk soon! :)
-jeff
On 2014-09-14 9:02 AM, Claude Philipona wrote:
> Hi Bart,
>
>> So IMHO organising it this way is not sustainable in the long run, past
>> organisers will not come back for a second round. It simply has gotten
>> too big to organise it this way.
>
> This is maybe a bit of a quick answer.
> As I told several people this week, we would be ready to organize a
> second edition in Lausanne in 2016 to celebrate the 10th anniversary
> of 2006 edition. Most of the previous involved organizations would be
> happy to start again.
>
> We would have the chance to use the brand new Swiss Tech Convention
> Center, a high tech very modular facility, that can accommodate
> conference up to 3000 attendess. Check the the video:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqRy1Mxm27s
> Swiss Tech Convention Center: http://www.tstcc.ch/en/index.php
>
> Also, I don't think foss4g as grown that much. In Lausanne there were
> 570 pre-registered attendees + 80 that registered on site. Actually
> what as grown is more the fees than the number of attendees.
>
> Early Bird Workshop Registration (per half day): 2014:$100 / 2006:~$50
> Early Bird Conference Registration 2014: $650 / 2006:~$250
>
> Regular Workshop Registration (per half day): 2014: $150 / 2006:~$75
> Regular Conference Registration: 2014: $750 / 2006:~$300
>
> And Switzerland is not known as the cheapest country in the world...
>
> I'm not saying that 2014 prices are too expensive, don't understand me
> wrong. I'm just saying that over the years, several tasks have been
> subcontracted by the local committee, which is possible with higher
> fees, so I would say that the risk of "organizer burnout" has reduced,
> not increased over the years.
>
> And finally, thank you very much to all organizers, volunteers,.... of
> FOSS4G 2014 PDX, it was a wonderful and successful edition. I really
> enjoyed it.
>
> Claude
>
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 1:07 AM, Bart van den Eijnden <bartvde at osgis.nl> wrote:
>>
>> Barend,
>>
>> I’m talking about the “burn-out" signals that have been given recently by the current LOC (mostly because they have to re-invent the wheel every year and do a lot more than can be expected from them).
>>
>> So IMHO organising it this way is not sustainable in the long run, past organisers will not come back for a second round. It simply has gotten too big to organise it this way.
>>
>> There have been many related threads on the conference committee about this recently.
>>
>> Sorry if my brief summary does not reflect all of those discussions.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Bart
>>
>> On 14 Sep 2014, at 09:10, <b.j.kobben at utwente.nl> <b.j.kobben at utwente.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> What actually do you perceive to be the "problem with FOSS4G organising"?
>>>
>>> I see it being a rather succesful, pretty large conference for the last
>>> two years, bringing in a substantial amount of income to OSGEO. One might
>>> perceive it as being "not the same as it used to be", but that is because
>>> size DOES matter, and once such a thing grows over a certain size (I guess
>>> around 700+ participants or so), you just cant have the "informal cosy
>>> event" that used to be...
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>> Barend
>>>
>>> --
>>> Barend Köbben
>>> Senior Lecturer ITC-University of Twente
>>> PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (Netherlands)
>>> @barendkobben
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13-09-2014 23:51, "Bart van den Eijnden" <bartvde at osgis.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Okay then I have 2 follow-up questions for you and/or Jeff:
>>>>
>>>> 1) do you acknowledge we have a problem with FOSS4G organising?
>>>>
>>>> 2) what other solutions to this problem do you see and why are they
>>>> better than co-organising with Eclipse/LocationTech?
>>>>
>>>> Bart
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On 14 sep. 2014, at 03:25, Venkatesh Raghavan
>>>>> <raghavan at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2014/09/14 0:11, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>>>>>> Responding to your comment, we now work closely with several
>>>>>> foundations (ISPRS, ICA, GLTN, and soon GSDI, are examples that I have
>>>>>> met with recently personally).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There does seem to be something different about the way LocationTech
>>>>>> is handing this, seems somewhat 'rushed' or 'forced', and I am not sure
>>>>>> why this pressure. Maybe we can slow things down a bit, take the hand
>>>>>> off the throttle, sign an MoU, maybe have booths at each other's
>>>>>> events...similar to how OSGeo works already with these other
>>>>>> foundations.
>>>>>
>>>>> I fully agree with views expressed by Jeff.
>>>>> I look forward growing collaborations with
>>>>> OSGeo and other international organizations
>>>>> in a systematic and orderly manner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best
>>>>>
>>>>> Venka
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We can talk about this shortly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2014-09-13 7:51 AM, Andrew Ross wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear Jeff, Everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll drop in to help as well. I may be a little late as I promised my
>>>>>>> children a video chat. I apologize as I'd like to be there and help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For what it's worth, regarding the tag line agenda item, OSGeo is far
>>>>>>> from the only open source community. Unaffiliated projects in Github
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> claim that for example. It might be better to aim for something a bit
>>>>>>> more distinct.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See you soon,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On September 12, 2014 7:28:08 PM PDT, Jeff McKenna
>>>>>>> <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For the record Arnulf forgot that the Board meeting starts at 8am
>>>>>>> at the
>>>>>>> same location, discussing of course the exact topics that he
>>>>>>> mentioned
>>>>>>> (http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2014-09-13). But please
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> let me hinder your energy, definitely tackle the areas that need
>>>>>>> love
>>>>>>> (reviving the marketting committee, picking your favorite project
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> incubation and give some nudges...lots to do!)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, see you early at the sprint.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PS. the Board meeting, and any Board meeting, is open to anyone and
>>>>>>> everyone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -jeff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2014-09-12 9:25 AM, Seven wrote:
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>> if anybody indicates interest in hacking OSGeo at the code
>>>>>>> sprint in
>>>>>>> Portland tomorrow please answer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In past years we have brain stormed around Marketing,
>>>>>>> Sponsorship,
>>>>>>> Education, Data (specifically how OSGeo can support the Open
>>>>>>> Data
>>>>>>> model) and so on. It is a aunique opportunity to evolve OSGeo
>>>>>>> as an
>>>>>>> organization and I would be happy to contribute to anything you
>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>> want to achieve for within and around OSGeo as an organization.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This can also include how (or rather if at all) OSGeo manages
>>>>>>> FOSS4G.
>>>>>>> In my experience the day directly after the event is the best
>>>>>>> time to
>>>>>>> actually do this, impressions are still fresh and lots of
>>>>>>> ideas have
>>>>>>> popped up. If we do not invest some time into realizing them
>>>>>>> we are
>>>>>>> not going to get anywhere. So if you think OSGeo needs a push
>>>>>>> in a
>>>>>>> certain direction, join. There will be representatives from the
>>>>>>> board
>>>>>>> of directors, the president (I guess you are there Jeff,
>>>>>>> right?) and
>>>>>>> other folks in key roles. It is probably the only time in the
>>>>>>> year
>>>>>>> when you will get so many bright OSGeo folks in one place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is a link to drop your ideas. Its a Wiki, just go hack it
>>>>>>> as you
>>>>>>> like:
>>>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Hack_2014
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Arnulf
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