[OSGeo-Discuss] Hacking OSGeo

Jody Garnett jody.garnett at gmail.com
Mon Sep 15 20:56:08 PDT 2014

I guess the quick answer is that the Eclipse Foundation is not new :)  You
can watch a lots of organisations starting to take on location as GIS goes
more mainstream. OGC is working with W3C, Eclipse has LocationTech, Apache
has a spatial information systems group.

Personally I think using the word "SpatialIT" or "Location" or "spatial
isn't special" is part of the the rest of IT catching up with us in the GIS
industry. I am really keen to see the big data players starting to working
with location - as they represent one of the first IT groups that do not
run away scared at our data volumes :) I had expected the BI crowd to make
an impact earlier, but they got distracted by big data. I have not managed
to figure out where the "internet of things" is going to intersect with
mapping - but I saw a great talk at FOSS4G 2013, and it was a hot topic at
a couple other conferences I have attended.

I expect the Board was aware or contacted, but the interesting thing is how
to best serve as part of this larger trend.

I touched

Jody Garnett

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Richard Greenwood <
richard.greenwood at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't get it, and my question is moot at this point in time, but why do
> we need a new foundation? Why couldn't OSGeo have provided what
> LocationTech purports to provide? Was there any discussion, or awareness,
> in the OSGeo board prior to the formation of LocationTech?
> Rich
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Jeff McKenna <
> jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote:
>> Arnulf,
>> I definitely agree that both foundations fill a role and need to exist.
>> The point I am trying to make is that we have the power to change OSGeo,
>> if we feel some needs are not being met well.
>> I used too strong of words again, I am sorry.
>> -jeff
>> On 2014-09-15 2:59 PM, Arnulf Christl wrote:
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>>> Jeff,
>>> I believe that Daniel is actually right in what he says - given that I
>>> understand the point he is trying to make. There are differences
>>> between OSGeo and LocationTech and trying to talk them away will not
>>> get us anywhere. And its not "bad" or "goo" either way, we just
>>> operate differently.
>>> The point is that in OSGeo you cannot move anything at all as a
>>> business, not directly. In LocationTech you become a corporate member,
>>> pay money and in return have influence over certain things and get
>>> support. Directly geared towards your specific needs. OSGeo does none
>>> of those things.
>>> As an individual (with or without business) you can become the
>>> committee chair and an OSGeo officer with absolutely no preconditions,
>>> no money needed, no organizational backing and no other hierarchy.
>>> Just because othes think you are doing a cool job and have accumulated
>>> enough merit to go ahead as a leader. This would not work in this way
>>> in LocationTech.
>>> Both ways have reasons to exist and are good. Right?
>>> Cheers.
>>> Arnulf
>>> Am 2014-09-15 10:45, schrieb Jeff McKenna:
>>>> On 2014-09-15 1:22 PM, Daniel Morissette wrote:
>>>>> the members in OSGeo are individuals and the members in
>>>>> Eclipse/LocationTech are businesses
>>>> Daniel this statement is not true, regarding OSGeo.  OSGeo members
>>>> are made up of all walks of life, and many are running private
>>>> businesses all around the world.  I have visited their
>>>> organizations/offices myself in my FOSS4G travels throughout the
>>>> years.
>>>> However I cannot change how you feel.
>>>> This part is unfortunate, these strong statements made publicly,
>>>> which I feel are made to divide our community.
>>>> Let me reinforce: our OSGeo community and our FOSS4G events (of
>>>> all sizes) are geared for everyone and anyone, with no sole focus
>>>> on one type of community.  And as the President of OSGeo, I am
>>>> happy to represent all of the members, of any kind :)
>>>> -jeff
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