[OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Polling charter members

Fri Sep 19 00:22:51 PDT 2014

Dear All,
I will try to summarize the discussion points and proposed actions. (Please
correct me, add points or actions i didn't see.)

For all of the point I think we need a clear proposal for change with
motivation, or at least a description of the issues, otherwise we go on
discussing each one with its partial view of the things.

We three topics on the table (maybe in order of time deadlines and in
reverse order of impact on the future of the foundation):

1) *FOSS4G-NA*

Apparently LocationTech is going to organize FOSS4G-NA as co-owner together
with OSGeo (https://2015.foss4g-na.org/).
Here I see two discussion elements:
- Does OSGeo have ownership on FOSS4G event (I think yes, at least morally)
- Does OSGeo as a whole community accept to "share" the FOSS4G event with
another institution? And in this case, based on what decision (why
LocationTech and not another, etc.) and what process?

*ACTION: ?????*

*2) FOSS4G*

It has been argued that to organize better FOSS4G events OSGeo should give
a mandate to a single company specialized in professional event organizer.
I don't know the rationale behind this (maybe expand in number of
participants, being more attractive for industry, be more fashinable?) also
because I was not in Portland.
Nevertheless, some discussion on how to make FOSS4G better is in place (I
have to admit that i don't know if better means with more people or with
more content or whatever) and a need for re-factory came out.

*ACTION: **Cameron volunteer to start a wiki collating options for the
FOSS4G future*

*3) OSGeo objectives*

It seems that the OSGeo goals are no more actual or they do not reflect the
direction of the last years. Someone argue that there is a need to revise
and eventually re-define them.
I don't think it is the case, I just think we need a roadmap (Yes like
projects!) to decide which actions OSGeo is willing to start, how to
achieve the objectives and hopefully conclude successfully.

*ACTION: **Jachym volunteer to set up a survey to understand the Charter
member opinion*

Maxi

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2014-09-19 8:47 GMT+02:00 Jachym Cepicky <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>:

> I would agree on that, to start in the wiki. But think, if we want to
> get some input from the charter members, it should be more active and
> structured effort - therefore I propose continue then with google
> forms
>
> Another question: of course, I'm talking about goals and OSGeo future,
> but FOSS4G is one of OSGeo's most important event, it has "some"
> functions, can be decide who it should be organised without knowing,
> what we want to do?
>
> J
>
> 2014-09-19 8:32 GMT+02:00 Bart van den Eijnden <bartvde at osgis.nl>:
> > Hey Jachym,
> >
> > wasn't Cameron referring specifically to what options we have to
> > "professionalize" FOSS4G organising?
> >
> > And you were talking more about OSGeo's goals etc. ?
> >
> > Also, I think it makes sense to create some content in a Wiki first, and
> use
> > that content to create a questionnaire. It's hard to create a good
> > questionnaire from scratch if the solutions haven't been discussed in
> detail
> > and worked on by multiple people IMHO.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Bart
> >
> > On 19 Sep 2014, at 08:02, Jachym Cepicky <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I proposed to prepare Google forms for that in other thread. Could have
> IMHO
> > more valuable output
> >
> > ?
> >
> > J
> >
> > Send from cellphone
> >
> > --
> > Jachym Cepicky
> > e-mail: jachym.cepicky gmail com
> > URL: http://les-ejk.cz
> > GPG: http://les-ejk.cz/pgp/JachymCepicky.pgp
> >
> > Give your code freedom with PyWPS -http://pywps.wald.intevation.org
> >
> > On Sep 19, 2014 3:38 AM, "Cameron Shorter" <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I'll volunteer to start a wiki collating options for the FOSS4G future,
> >> with sections that people can add comments into.
> >> I should have something up for review and contributions within 24 hours.
> >>
> >> On 18/09/2014 7:04 PM, Maria Antonia Brovelli wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear All
> >> I agree completely with Margherita. The most of people are asking
> >> themselves what it is happening.
> >> Please who was and is involved, please write the history of what has
> >> happened on a wiki page. When the plot is finalised the charter members
> >> vote.
> >> Maria
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli
> >> Vice Rector for Como Campus - Politecnico di Milano
> >>
> >> Public Participation GIS: a FOSS architecture enabling field-data
> >> collection
> >>
> >>
> http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17538947.2014.887150#.UwPVuIVnibF
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ISPRS WG IV/5 "Web and Cloud Based Geospatial Services and
> Applications" -
> >> Co-chair - OSGeo Charter Member - ICA - OSGeo Advisory Board Member -
> SIFET
> >> Scientific Commitee Member
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Via Natta, 12/14 - 22100 COMO (ITALIA)
> >> Tel. +39-031-3327336 - Mob. +39-328-0023867 - fax. +39-031-3327321
> >> e-mail1: maria.brovelli at polimi.it
> >> e-mail2: prorettrice at como.polimi.it
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> Da: discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org <discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>
> per
> >> conto di Margherita Di Leo <diregola at gmail.com>
> >> Inviato: giovedì 18 settembre 2014 10.13
> >> A: Jachym Cepicky
> >> Cc: <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>; conference; osgeo-board List; Steven
> >> Feldman
> >> Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Polling charter members
> >>
> >> Dear All,
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Jachym Cepicky
> >> <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Just noting,
> >>>
> >>> discussion about relationship between LocationTech and OSGeo is here
> >>> since 2012 (IIRC). That many people did not pain attention to it
> >>> (actually including myself up to certain time), is not fault of OSGeo
> >>> .. or LocationTech.
> >>>
> >>> It's just actually boring topic. We are community of (mostly)
> >>> developers and users of FOSS4G (not conference, but software in this
> >>> case). This sounds like politics .. who would pay attention? So, now
> >>> we are here, things are happening, we can finally talk to whole
> >>> community, because of this IMHO *is* important topic - two big
> >>> organisations are trying to find a way, how to cooperate in the future
> >>> for better free and open source software for geospatial! This is good.
> >>> If for nothing else, then for clarifying OSGeo's position.
> >>>
> >>
> >> If anyone is wondering why most charter members remained silent about
> the
> >> topic, here i can offer my 2 cents..
> >> It is true that this is a long story, but it's hard to find all the
> >> elements needed for judgement. I'd ask those that have personally
> followed
> >> the steps, to kindly fill a wiki page with the most important facts.
> Another
> >> thing is that, for those that couldn't make it at FOSS4G, it is (I
> believe)
> >> not easy to understand on what exactly the community of charter members
> is
> >> being called to express their opinion. What does it mean "to cooperate"
> and
> >> what does it imply for the organizations involved? Is it a case by case
> >> cooperation what you're talking about? why it looks like is the FOSS4G
> event
> >> at stake here?
> >>
> >> Thanks for any pointers
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Dr. Margherita DI LEO
> >> Scientific / technical project officer
> >>
> >> European Commission - DG JRC
> >> Institute for Environment and Sustainability (IES)
> >> Via Fermi, 2749
> >> I-21027 Ispra (VA) - Italy - TP 261
> >>
> >> Tel. +39 0332 78 3600
> >> margherita.di-leo at jrc.ec.europa.eu
> >>
> >> Disclaimer: The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may
> not
> >> in any circumstance be regarded as stating an official position of the
> >> European Commission.
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cameron Shorter,
> >> Software and Data Solutions Manager
> >> LISAsoft
> >> Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
> >> 26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
> >>
> >> P +61 2 9009 5000,  W www.lisasoft.com,  F +61 2 9009 5099
> >
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jachym Cepicky
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> URL: http://les-ejk.cz
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