[OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Polling charter members

Gert-Jan van der Weijden gert-jan at osgeo.nl
Fri Sep 19 12:45:50 PDT 2014

Thanks Cameron, this really helps!


I made a small adjustment so that all suggested option now have there
advantages listed first, followed by their disadvantages. Makes it a bit
more neutral.


Personally I would leave out the "voting" sections in this stage (comments
are OK). Just listing the options, advantages & disadvantages seems enough
for now. By the time the're sort of complete, the votes may enter the stage.

(just a thought, I kept the votings in the wiki page anyway)









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Ok, first draft of wiki page is here:

Please feel free to improve the text, or insert your comments / votes.

On 19/09/2014 6:14 pm, Steven Feldman wrote:

Am I the only person who finds it difficult to follow a thread in a mailing
list where postings get repeated continuously as the thread is replied to
(let alone our tendency to post across several lists - mea culpa)? 


Dare I suggest that we seek a simpler and clearer forum for this discussion?
I’m not suggesting abandoning the lists just using a better tool for a
discussion in which we want to engage a lot of people.



On 19 Sep 2014, at 02:37, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:

I would agree on that, to start in the wiki. But think, if we want to
get some input from the charter members, it should be more active and
structured effort - therefore I propose continue then with google

Another question: of course, I'm talking about goals and OSGeo future,
but FOSS4G is one of OSGeo's most important event, it has "some"
functions, can be decide who it should be organised without knowing,
what we want to do?


2014-09-19 8:32 GMT+02:00 Bart van den Eijnden <bartvde at osgis.nl>:

Hey Jachym,

wasn't Cameron referring specifically to what options we have to
"professionalize" FOSS4G organising?

And you were talking more about OSGeo's goals etc. ?

Also, I think it makes sense to create some content in a Wiki first, and use
that content to create a questionnaire. It's hard to create a good
questionnaire from scratch if the solutions haven't been discussed in detail
and worked on by multiple people IMHO.

Best regards,

On 19 Sep 2014, at 08:02, Jachym Cepicky <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com> wrote:

I proposed to prepare Google forms for that in other thread. Could have IMHO
more valuable output



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On Sep 19, 2014 3:38 AM, "Cameron Shorter" <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>

I'll volunteer to start a wiki collating options for the FOSS4G future,
with sections that people can add comments into.
I should have something up for review and contributions within 24 hours.

On 18/09/2014 7:04 PM, Maria Antonia Brovelli wrote:

Dear All
I agree completely with Margherita. The most of people are asking
themselves what it is happening.
Please who was and is involved, please write the history of what has
happened on a wiki page. When the plot is finalised the charter members

Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli
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Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Polling charter members

Dear All,

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:51 PM, Jachym Cepicky
 <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com> <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com> wrote:

Just noting,

discussion about relationship between LocationTech and OSGeo is here
since 2012 (IIRC). That many people did not pain attention to it
(actually including myself up to certain time), is not fault of OSGeo
.. or LocationTech.

It's just actually boring topic. We are community of (mostly)
developers and users of FOSS4G (not conference, but software in this
case). This sounds like politics .. who would pay attention? So, now
we are here, things are happening, we can finally talk to whole
community, because of this IMHO *is* important topic - two big
organisations are trying to find a way, how to cooperate in the future
for better free and open source software for geospatial! This is good.
If for nothing else, then for clarifying OSGeo's position.

If anyone is wondering why most charter members remained silent about the
topic, here i can offer my 2 cents..
It is true that this is a long story, but it's hard to find all the
elements needed for judgement. I'd ask those that have personally followed
the steps, to kindly fill a wiki page with the most important facts. Another
thing is that, for those that couldn't make it at FOSS4G, it is (I believe)
not easy to understand on what exactly the community of charter members is
being called to express their opinion. What does it mean "to cooperate" and
what does it imply for the organizations involved? Is it a case by case
cooperation what you're talking about? why it looks like is the FOSS4G event
at stake here?

Thanks for any pointers

Best regards,

Dr. Margherita DI LEO
Scientific / technical project officer

European Commission - DG JRC
Institute for Environment and Sustainability (IES)
Via Fermi, 2749
I-21027 Ispra (VA) - Italy - TP 261

Tel. +39 0332 78 3600
margherita.di-leo at jrc.ec.europa.eu

Disclaimer: The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may not
in any circumstance be regarded as stating an official position of the
European Commission.

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