[OSGeo-Discuss] Discussion on statement : avoiding slang. Was: Drafting a Diversity statement for the foundation (call for input)

Thu Apr 2 23:38:56 PDT 2015

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> With so many variants on the CoC/Diversity Statement, it would be great if a
> international standard could be created, such as done for Open Source
> Licenses.

I think that there are a few CoC consolidation efforts like that
currently, here is one [4] and another [5] that reference the first.
I can't find all the links right now but recall them from the past.
There was some OSM work to make one specific to mailing lists [6].
Here are a handful of additional CoCs too [7], [8], [9], [10].

CoC is inherently different than licenses.  Licenses have
compatibility issues and there are strong forces which promote
well-known compatible licenses.  Various companies have lawyers review
licenses for compatibility too.  There is no concept of compatibility
in CoC, nor are diverse legal resources dedicated to it.  So CoC is a
realm (unlike licenses) where everyone can have their just slightly
different CoC without causing incompatibility.  Despite the
variability, all strive to promote a safe, productive, functioning
community for all.

Eli

[4] http://citizencodeofconduct.org/
[5] http://www.rust-lang.org/conduct.html
[6] https://github.com/osmlab/codes-of-conduct/blob/master/mailing_lists/code_of_conduct.md
[7] https://github.com/codeforamerica/codeofconduct
[8] https://github.com/twitter/code-of-conduct
[9] https://github.com/python/pycon-code-of-conduct
[10] https://github.com/selenamarie/conference_policies (list of
others, mostly ~2012)

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> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Draft_OSGeo_Code_of_Conduct
> [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Debian_Code_of_Conduct
> [3]
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Diversity#Geek_Feminism_Template_Anti_Harassment_Policy
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>
> On 31/03/2015 5:40 pm, Maria Antonia Brovelli wrote:
>
> Yes, I agree. Diversity also refers to language. We have to start reason on
> that as a richness and not as a barrier. I like to have this item in the
> CoC.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best.
>
> Maria
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> Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Discussion on statement : avoiding slang. Was:
> Drafting a Diversity statement for the foundation (call for input)
>
>
> Hi,
>
> My experience within OSGeo was positive so far. At FOSS4G, sometimes people
> forget, that half of the crowd speaks English only occasionally, which can
> lead to misunderstandings.
>
> Anyway: I would like to point out, that it is not only matter of writing,
> but also talking (at foss4gs, sprints, ...) In public but also in private,
> what can be even harder than writing (you can not take your time to figure
> out the best way how to express, what you need).
>
> And yes, having something like that in CoC would be nice.
>
>
> J
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>
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015, 22:00 Andrea Aime <andrea.aime at geo-solutions.it>
> wrote:
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> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 9:40 PM, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks all for the feedback.
> So my question is:
> 1. Should our Code of Conduct/Diversity statement mention that we have a
> multilingual community?
>
> I believe it's still a good idea.
>
>
>
>
> 2. What should we recommend that all, and especially native speakers do to
> make our community welcoming to non-native speakers?
>
> I'd suggest, just a reminder that the level of written English can vary a
> lot, ranging from cases where the lack of fluency is
>
> evident, to cases where the sentence seems just too direct/rude, so
> generally speaking, it's a good idea to try and be patient
>
> and understanding.
>
> Sometimes I wish there was a guide of typical expectations/orientations
> varying culture by culture, to try
>
> and understand better where people are coming from and put what they say in
> context (this example
>
>  might be wrong or just a silly generalizations, but just to give you an
> idea, I've heard
>
> Japanese normally won't say no in a conversation, you have to figure it out,
> and other cultures surely
>
> have their "surprising" traits as well).
>
> Cheers
>
> Andrea
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