[OSGeo-Discuss] NSA - Someone is swatting you :-o

Wed Dec 16 10:27:33 PST 2015

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Hi Jorge,
go back coding. Ignorance is bliss.

Regarding "what we did to him" Jeff did not really explain. This is all
he said:
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2015-December/013714.html

This must suffice.

Let's move on.

Regarding the noise on the Discuss list? Yes, it is distracting. Some
even say it is destructive. But most of it is irrelevant.

Have fun again,
7even

On 16.12.2015 16:36, Jorge Gustavo Rocha wrote:
> Hi Jeroen,
> 
> Thanks for your constructive message. Ian was very constructive also.
> 
> Maybe I spend too much time coding and I miss a few emails. Did Jeff
> resign? What have we done to upset him so much?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jorge Gustavo
> 
> Às 13:29 de 16-12-2015, Jeroen Ticheler escreveu:
>> Thanks Ian for this email! I fully support what you are writing. It i
s
>> very much time to stop the negative sentiments around LocationTech,
>> FOSS4G conference offers that had LocationTech as a partner and so
>> forth. Constructive collaboration is all we need within OSGeo AND wit
h
>> others in the (geo-)community.
>>
>> I’ve heard negative sentiments about the FOSS4G 2017 selection proces
s.
>> As a member of the Conference Committee I would like to state here th
at
>> I am convinced the LocationTech issue was not as decisive for most
>> members as people outside the committee seem to think. It was an aspe
ct
>> discussed thoroughly, as were other aspects of the proposals.
>>
>> I hope the Face to Face meeting end of January by the OSGeo board hos
ted
>> in our GeoCat office will be constructive and positive from all angle
s.
>> But at this stage I also call upon the OSGeo Board to come forward wi
th
>> a statement that helps to unify the OSGeo community and give directio
ns.
>> There seems to be a vacuum in the leadership right now with Jeff’s
>> sudden resignation that should be filled as soon as possible.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Jeroen
>>
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>>> On 16 dec. 2015, at 12:29, Ian Edwards <iedwards.pub at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:iedwards.pub at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> /"there seems to be a fairly strident Location Tech bashing going on
"/
>>>
>>> This negative "bashing" of other organisations has to completely sto
p
>>> because it is having a massive negative impact on OSGeo.
>>>
>>> We've recently lost a respected former board member (who has resigne
d
>>> his charter member status) and the OSGeo president, both in relation
>>> to how we've conducted ourselves in relation to other organisations 
in
>>> the community.  These internal losses are not due to there being oth
er
>>> organisations in the geospatial world, nor how they are acting - but
>>> instead our losses are due to how we ourselves are thinking and
>>> behaving.
>>>
>>> OSGeo should positively support all elements of the geospatial
>>> community including users, developers and also other organisations t
o
>>> the fullest and best of our ability.  By doing this we become strong
er
>>> (instead of weaker) and will remain useful, relevant and of interest
>>> to the community who will continue to invest their energy and effort
s
>>> with us and recognise our unique value and position.
>>>
>>> In relation to LocationTech - similar divisions exist across the
>>> entire Open Source world (take a look at LibreOffice and OpenOffice,
>>> or MariaDB and MySQL).  The broard "FOSS4G" community (encompassing
>>> both OSGeo and LocationTech) is not alone in facing this, and my hop
e
>>> is that OSGeo can once again be a beacon to the rest of the open
>>> source world and show how best to embrace these differences,
>>> understand the strengths and weakness in both camps, and work togeth
er
>>> for the positive benefit of our diverse community.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Ian Edwards
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Puneet Kishor <punk.kish at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:punk.kish at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     > On Dec 16, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Pat Tressel <ptressel at myuw.net
>>> <mailto:ptressel at myuw.net>> wrote:
>>>     >
>>>     > If you want to point at a company as being the Evil Empire
>>> these days, you'd be more accurate pointing at Apple (cancelling
>>> licenses for Mac clones, suicides at Foxconn, restrictions on gettin
g
>>> apps on iTunes, removing fitness tracker products from their stores
>>> because they might compete with the Apple Watch, etc. -- do a search
>>> for "apple anti competitive practices")
>>>
>>>     You were doing fine until above. The rest of your post is indeed
>>>     very relevant and useful and argues correctly for sanity instead
>>>     of knee-jerk accusations (until the above assertions, of course)
.
>>>
>>>     The point is, there seems to be a fairly strident Location Tech
>>>     bashing going on, and it is getting to be tiring. Let's stick to
>>>     keeping OSGeo a fun, useful champion of free and open geospatial
>>>     without becoming anti-anything-free, partisan and possibly
>>> irrelevant.
>>>
>>>     --
>>>     Puneet Kishor
>>>     Just Another Creative Commoner
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>>>     http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
>>>
>>>
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