[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

[Arnulf Christl]

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Ian, Jeroen,
thanks.

+1

Arnulf (OSGeo President Emeritus)

On 16.12.2015 14:29, Jeroen Ticheler wrote:
> Thanks Ian for this email! I fully support what you are writing. It
> is very much time to stop the negative sentiments around
> LocationTech, FOSS4G conference offers that had LocationTech as a
> partner and so forth. Constructive collaboration is all we need
> within OSGeo AND with others in the (geo-)community.
> 
> I’ve heard negative sentiments about the FOSS4G 2017 selection
> process. As a member of the Conference Committee I would like to
> state here that I am convinced the LocationTech issue was not as
> decisive for most members as people outside the committee seem to
> think. It was an aspect discussed thoroughly, as were other aspects
> of the proposals.
> 
> I hope the Face to Face meeting end of January by the OSGeo board
> hosted in our GeoCat office will be constructive and positive from
> all angles. But at this stage I also call upon the OSGeo Board to
> come forward with a statement that helps to unify the OSGeo community
> and give directions. There seems to be a vacuum in the leadership
> right now with Jeff’s sudden resignation that should be filled as
> soon as possible.
> 
> Greetings, Jeroen
> 
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>> On 16 dec. 2015, at 12:29, Ian Edwards <iedwards.pub at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:iedwards.pub at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> /"there seems to be a fairly strident Location Tech bashing going
>> on"/
>> 
>> This negative "bashing" of other organisations has to completely
>> stop because it is having a massive negative impact on OSGeo.
>> 
>> We've recently lost a respected former board member (who has
>> resigned his charter member status) and the OSGeo president, both
>> in relation to how we've conducted ourselves in relation to other
>> organisations in the community.  These internal losses are not due
>> to there being other organisations in the geospatial world, nor how
>> they are acting - but instead our losses are due to how we
>> ourselves are thinking and behaving.
>> 
>> OSGeo should positively support all elements of the geospatial 
>> community including users, developers and also other organisations
>> to the fullest and best of our ability.  By doing this we become
>> stronger (instead of weaker) and will remain useful, relevant and
>> of interest to the community who will continue to invest their
>> energy and efforts with us and recognise our unique value and
>> position.
>> 
>> In relation to LocationTech - similar divisions exist across the 
>> entire Open Source world (take a look at LibreOffice and
>> OpenOffice, or MariaDB and MySQL).  The broard "FOSS4G" community
>> (encompassing both OSGeo and LocationTech) is not alone in facing
>> this, and my hope is that OSGeo can once again be a beacon to the
>> rest of the open source world and show how best to embrace these
>> differences, understand the strengths and weakness in both camps,
>> and work together for the positive benefit of our diverse
>> community.
>> 
>> 
>> -- Ian Edwards
>> 
>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Puneet Kishor
>> <punk.kish at gmail.com <mailto:punk.kish at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Pat Tressel <ptressel at myuw.net
>>> <mailto:ptressel at myuw.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you want to point at a company as being the Evil Empire these
>>> days, you'd be more accurate pointing at Apple (cancelling
>>> licenses for Mac clones, suicides at Foxconn, restrictions on
>>> getting apps on iTunes, removing fitness tracker products from
>>> their stores because they might compete with the Apple Watch,
>>> etc. -- do a search for "apple anti competitive practices")
>> 
>> You were doing fine until above. The rest of your post is indeed 
>> very relevant and useful and argues correctly for sanity instead of
>> knee-jerk accusations (until the above assertions, of course).
>> 
>> The point is, there seems to be a fairly strident Location Tech 
>> bashing going on, and it is getting to be tiring. Let's stick to 
>> keeping OSGeo a fun, useful champion of free and open geospatial 
>> without becoming anti-anything-free, partisan and possibly
>> irrelevant.
>> 
>> -- Puneet Kishor Just Another Creative Commoner 
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