[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

[Jody Garnett]

I also find it good to ask project leads to pass on announcements of this
nature to their user lists ( more reach the better ).
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 8:10 AM Steven Feldman <shfeldman at gmail.com> wrote:

> +1,000,000 to what Paul has said
>
> I also passed the FOSS4G 2013 list (which included names for 2011 and
> previous FOSSS4Gs) to the 2014 team in the spirit of fraternal support to
> future FOSS4Gs, I believe that was the right thing to do even though we
> neglected to have specific opt in/out option. No doubt they passed the
> extended list to 2015 and they have in turn shared with 2016. This is good
> not bad.
>
> We need to separate the animus towards LT from the apparent horror at the
> use of a ‘commercial’ service like MailChimp. Those of us who earn our
> living from Open Source Geo need to promote Open Source Geo and that means
> outreach to people who may not be followers of our mailing lists, so we
> need other channels. e-mail marketing is an established way of reaching
> potential FOSS4G participants, it is not evil, it probably isn’t spam (even
> if you haven’t opted in) as long as you provide an immediate opt out from
> further mail (which MailChimp does really well).
>
> If LT are willing to allow us access to their large contact list, surely
> that is something we should say thank you for not complain about? We might
> want to ask ourselves why their list is so much larger than ours? We have a
> list of several thousand accumulated from previous FOSS4Gs, using MailChimp
> enables us to clean that list down to interested participants very
> efficiently by providing a simple opt out.
>
> There is no reason why we should not continue to maintain a growing list
> of people who have attended, sponsored or expressed interest in
> OSGeo/FOSS4G. The norm should be that you are opted in by default as a
> result of past interest but every mail provides the option to opt out.
>
> Evangelising Open Source Geo is IMHO immensely worthwhile. To do that you
> need to be a bit pushy while finding the right balance.
>
> Let’s applaud our advocates, conference organisers and marketeers, not
> moan at them
>
> Apologies if this is a bit ranty (the first draft was way more ranty)
>
> Peace and goodwill to everyone for the holiday season whatever your faith
> ______
> Steven
>
>
> On 16 Dec 2015, at 20:00, board-request at lists.osgeo.org wrote:
>
> *From: *Paul Ramsey <pramsey at cleverelephant.ca>
> *Subject: **Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o*
> *Date: *16 December 2015 at 17:16:15 GMT
> *To: *Daniel Morissette <dmorissette at mapgears.com>
> *Cc: *OSGeo Discussions <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
>
>
>
> Agree w/ Daniel in all ways. We want our events to succeed, no? So we
> use marketing techniques to do so. Emails and so on. And we track who
> opens them so we can get better at marketing. Like any other business
> trying to succeed. Mail chimp is currently convenient, in the past
> other technologies were convenient (I spammed people in 2007 using a
> custom perl script, because I am a God Among Men), in the future
> different technologies will be convenient. But they are all going
> towards making a good event.
>
> Naturally the first targets of marketing the event will be people who
> have attended past events under the same/similar umbrella. I provided
> the 2007 attendance list to foss4g events for a number of years until
> it had grown entirely stale. I felt good about it. I revelled in the
> goodness of it.
>
> I have spammed. I will spam again, in the service of a good cause.
> That is my weakness. That is my strength.
>
> P.
>
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