[OSGeo-Discuss] [Ica-osgeo-labs] Do you remember this?

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Tue Dec 22 12:27:36 PST 2015


Hi Suchith, Sergio, Micha,

Thanks Carl for highlighting the importance of mutual respect. OSGeo 
also has a Code-Of-Conduct [1] with similar sentiment to OGC:

/We strive to ...//
//Be careful in the words that we choose.//
//Whether we are participating as professionals or volunteers, we value 
professionalism in all interactions, and take responsibility for our own 
speech. Be kind to others. Do not insult or put down other participants.//
/
The content of the text being referenced is pushing the boundaries of 
our Code of Conduct [1] by making fun of another organisation.

I suggest that we wish to raise this point with the OGC, then reword, 
focusing just on the facts, and ideally be respectful in the way the 
facts are presented.

Hi Suchith,
I suggest being careful to not over-promise what OSGeo will do (in this 
case responding to a letter), unless you are volunteering to do it 
yourself on behalf of OSGeo. The OSGeo Board is only a few volunteers, 
representing a large body of volunteers. We can do much, but we do it as 
volunteers.

Warm regards, Cameron

[1] http://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct

On 23/12/2015 6:27 am, Carl Reed wrote:
> All -
>
> The OGC has a formal Principals of Conduct Policy. I wrote and 
> maintained the policy with the agreement and approval of the OGC 
> membership.
>
> http://www.opengeospatial.org/ogc/policies/conduct
>
> This policy was initially based on the IETF conduct policy.
>
> Please read sections 3.a and 3.b as they have to do with how OGC 
> members interact with one another as well as with the broader community.
>
> So before "stirring the pot" on the LiDAR  topic again, consider the 
> Conduct policy as guidance on consensus building.
>
> Happy Holidays
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Suchith Anand 
> <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Sergio, Micha,
>
>     Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
>
>     The OSGeo Foundation will respond formally to this in due course
>     as we had initiated this open letter for the need for standards in
>     LiDAR data formats [1], [2]. I request OSGeo Board to add this in
>     the agenda of the next Board meeting and also for the F2F meeting,
>     so we can discuss and plan next steps.
>
>     But first we will wait for response from the Open Geospatial
>     Consortium - who as per their website is committed to making
>     quality open standards for the global geospatial community and
>     have been working on this by setting up a Point Cloud DWG. We have
>     put our trust in OGC in this process , so let us first get the
>     response from OGC. I am ccing Scott Simmons of OGC to get their
>     response.
>
>     Best wishes,
>
>     Suchith
>
>
>     [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/LIDAR_Format_Letter
>     [2] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-May/014222.html
>
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* ica-osgeo-labs [ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>     <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>] on behalf of
>     Micha Silver [micha at arava.co.il <mailto:micha at arava.co.il>]
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, December 22, 2015 1:55 PM
>     *To:* SERGIO ACOSTAYLARA; ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
>     <mailto:ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org>; discuss at lists.osgeo.org
>     <mailto:discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
>     *Subject:* Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] [OSGeo-Discuss] Do you remember this?
>
>     Here's the continuation:
>
>     https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/standards/2015-December/000960.html
>
>     On 12/22/2015 03:45 PM, SERGIO ACOSTAYLARA wrote:
>>
>>     ​I remember discussing this in April: "Open Letter for the need
>>     for Open Standards in LiDAR"; now I found this interesting post:
>>     http://rapidlasso.com/2015/12/19/the-darc-force-awakens-esri-escalates-lidar-format-war/
>>>>
>>     Is the empire striking back?
>>
>>
>>     Sergio Acosta y Lara
>>     Departamento de Geomática
>>     Dirección Nacional de Topografía
>>     Ministerio de Transporte y Obras Públicas
>>     URUGUAY
>>
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