[OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] Code of Conduct in Real Case

Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting OSGeo.nl gert-jan at osgeo.nl
Wed Jun 24 04:29:43 PDT 2015

In my opinion as well there is not a problem, especially since both pictures are used within a certain context.
However, I realize I'm looking through a Western-european, liberal cultural perspective.

Perhaps someone from for instance the Senegal local OSGeo chapter can comment on this from a different cultural point of view?




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Van: discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] Namens Peter Baumann
Verzonden: woensdag 24 juni 2015 13:12
Aan: Jeroen Ticheler; Sanghee Shin
CC: OSGeo Discussions; Conference Dev
Onderwerp: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] Code of Conduct in Real Case


On 06/24/15 13:01, Jeroen Ticheler wrote:
> Dear Sanghee,
> In my opinion these are perfectly fine. But could you please remove a couple of other pictures picturing OSGeo developers (male dominated, generalizing men as nerds)?
> ;-) Joking apart, I’ve not been in favor of the CoC in the first place. I think it creates more unwanted side effects (like this request to remove art or remove single sex pictures) than that it prevents a person with bad intentions to refrain from them. A plan for the LOC on how to deal with a person acting offensively makes more sense to me. I trust our community members are able to behave as sensitive and sensible people that can auto-regulate issues like this in the same way we collaborate in FOSS projects.
> The CoC has been established, not sure if it was adopted by the OSGeo board? If it was, we have to deal with it, so this discussion may be useful indeed. Otherwise, I vote for removing the CoC again and work towards a plan for LOC’s to deal with offensive behavior towards others.
> Cheers,
> Jeroen
>> On 24 jun. 2015, at 12:22, Sanghee Shin <shshin at gaia3d.com> wrote:
>> Dear All,
>> It’s now time to apply OSGeo CoC(Code of Conduct)[0] in real case. 
>> I was asked to remove a few slides from my presentation "7 Reasons why you should come to FOSS4G 2015 Seoul”[1], which is at the main page of FOSS4G Seoul, as being possibly offensive to women. Specifically to say, slide #6 (nude female in painting) and slide #20 (row of female models) are those controversial ones. 
>> I refused this asking immediately because I don’t believe my presentation breach the OSGeo CoC and I don’t agree with that view. 
>> However since this is not the first time asking me to remove those slides from my presentation and OSGeo now have CoC, I think we’d better discuss this issue more openly to reach conclusions. 
>> I might be wrong and I’d like to hear other people’s opinion on this from all around the world. Also I expect Conference Committee’s input as well, because this is the matter of OSGeo conference. 
>> I’m open to remove/amend/keep those slides after hearing other people’s opinions on this. Also I believe it’ll be a great chance for OSGeo to learn how to apply CoC in real cases. 
>> *Sidenote for defending myself:
>> - Slide #6 is the part of Salvador Dali’s well known painting named 
>> “Lincoln in Dalivision”[2]
>> - Slide #20 is the picture of famous girl group, Girls’ Generation(SNSD)[3], which I believe as symbolic icon of wide spread of Korean culture(K-Culture) in/around Asia. 
>> All the best,
>> Sanghee
>> [0]http://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct
>> [1]http://2015.foss4g.org
>> [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_in_Dalivision
>> [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls%27_Generation
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