[OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure
Angelos Tzotsos
gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com
Thu Mar 5 14:53:41 PST 2015
Hi,
For pycsw, we started code review discussion during FOSS4G 2014 Code
Sprint, but the actual review happened within 2-3 weeks.
Best,
Angelos
On 03/06/2015 12:19 AM, Jody Garnett wrote:
> I completely understand Daniel, I think a "star" belittles the amount of
> work (and operational change) involved in meeting OSGeo's requirements.
>
> If it helps I am not talking about diluting incubation, instead opening up
> to more projects (by forgoing the requirement to have a mentor). All
> projects in incubation would be operating against the same graduation
> checklist.
>
> All of the projects in incubation currently have made significant progress,
> most are just waiting on a "sprint" or "sponsor" to grind through their
> code review. I wonder if pycsw could share how long their code review took?
>
>
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
> On 5 March 2015 at 11:57, Daniel Morissette <dmorissette at mapgears.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure I like diluting the "Incubated Project" status by turning it
>> into a star rating in which incubated and non-incubated projects are mixed.
>>
>> Incubated projects have taken steps to review their code and adjust their
>> way to operate to meet several requirements, and just a set of stars do not
>> relay that properly to the outside world.
>>
>> That being said, I have no alternative name to offer for the "OSGeo Labs"
>> pre-incubation status at the moment, so I'll stay out of the debate.
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> On 2015-03-05 5:52 AM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
>>
>>> Or you’re saying you want to address this with the stars system? So 1
>>> star for existing labs projects for instance?
>>>
>>> Jody, as chair of the incubation committee, what’s your take on this?
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Bart
>>>
>>> On 05 Mar 2015, at 11:51, Bart van den Eijnden <bartvde at osgis.nl
>>>> <mailto:bartvde at osgis.nl>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don’t think you can put projects that have gone through incubation
>>>> and the projects that still have to incubate at the same level. But
>>>> that’s my opinion only.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Bart
>>>>
>>>> On 05 Mar 2015, at 11:18, Jachym Cepicky <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you are trying to find a term for something, I would like to
>>>>> get rid of. "OSGeo Project" is, what I would like to achieve for both
>>>>> - today's projects and labs together under one hat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or anybody thinks completely different?
>>>>>
>>>>> Just my $.02
>>>>> J
>>>>>
>>>>> čt 5. 3. 2015 v 9:08 odesílatel Suchith Anand
>>>>> <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>> napsal:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, i think "Incubator Projects" is an appropriate name for this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vaclav - Is this ok for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Suchith
>>>>> __________________________________________
>>>>> From: Bart van den Eijnden [bartvde at osgis.nl
>>>>> <mailto:bartvde at osgis.nl>]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 7:34 AM
>>>>> To: Vaclav Petras
>>>>> Cc: Suchith Anand; discuss at lists.osgeo.org
>>>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree Community Projects is a confusing name.
>>>>>
>>>>> What about incubator projects? That’s the term that Apache uses.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org <http://incubator.apache.org/>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Bart
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04 Mar 2015, at 23:25, Vaclav Petras <wenzeslaus at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com><mailto:w__enzeslaus at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Suchith Anand
>>>>> <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.__uk
>>>>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:Suchith.Anand at __
>>>>> nottingham.ac.uk
>>>>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>> wrote:
>>>>> Thanks Jeff.
>>>>>
>>>>> Though we had lots of discussions afterwards and continuing on
>>>>> this , we couldnt find any solution till now. So this might be a
>>>>> good opportunity to modify the Incubation's "labs" term, to
>>>>> something like "Community Projects" to avoid confusion if that is
>>>>> acceptable to Vaclav, Jachym and others. Many thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I'm not particularly fond of "Community Projects" as a
>>>>> name. Even mature FOSS projects are community projects in one way
>>>>> or the other. Unfortunately, I don't have other suggestion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Vaclav
>>>>>
>>>>> Suchith
>>>>>
>>>>> __________________________________________
>>>>> From: discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.__org
>>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:discuss-bounces at __
>>>>> lists.osgeo.org
>>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>>
>>>>> [discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.__org
>>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:discuss-bounces at __
>>>>> lists.osgeo.org
>>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>>] On Behalf Of Jeff
>>>>> McKenna [jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com
>>>>> <mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>__<mailto:jmckenna at __
>>>>> gatewaygeomatics.com
>>>>> <mailto:jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>>]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 2:26 PM
>>>>> To: discuss at lists.osgeo.org
>>>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.osgeo.org><__mailto:discuss at lists.osgeo.org
>>>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.osgeo.org>__>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure
>>>>>
>>>>> (we are approaching 2 full years that this "labs" naming has been an
>>>>> issue and discussed[1])
>>>>>
>>>>> Today, knowing how ingrained the term 'lab' is in the GeoForAll
>>>>> education network, maybe Jachym is correct that it is a good time to
>>>>> modify the Incubation's "labs" term, to something like "Community
>>>>> Projects".
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/__pipermail/ica-osgeo-labs/2013-
>>>>> __June/000134.html
>>>>> <http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/ica-osgeo-labs/2013-
>>>>> June/000134.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> -jeff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2015-03-03 3:42 AM, Suchith Anand wrote:
>>>>> > Vaclav,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Please accept my sincere apologies as it was my mistake that i
>>>>> did not think on this when we started the ICA-OSGeo Labs
>>>>> initiative (so many things were going on at that time!).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > In universities, we generally use the "Labs" term to refer to
>>>>> infrastructure/people/__facilities for a particular subject. For
>>>>> example Botany Lab, Robotics Lab etc. And we wanted to make sure
>>>>> there is a dedicated Open Source Geospatial Lab in universities
>>>>> worldwide (which includes bringing together people from various
>>>>> disciplines, infrastructure (the physical space) and facilities
>>>>> to make this happen. Also it is easier to make use of the same
>>>>> terminology/structure of "Labs" which is widely used in the
>>>>> university environment to get academics start the initiative in
>>>>> their respective universities (also it is easier for them to
>>>>> convince their higher management on a structure that is known to
>>>>> them than reinvent a new term for this) .
>>>>> >
>>>>> > So it will very helpful for us if you can make use of new
>>>>> "OSGeo-projects" and metioned star (or similar) rating system for
>>>>> the incubation as then there is no confusion in the future. Many
>>>>> thanks for your consideration.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Best wishes,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Suchith
>>>>> >
>>>>> > __________________________________________
>>>>> > From: discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.__org
>>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:discuss-bounces at __
>>>>> lists.osgeo.org
>>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>>
>>>>> [discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.__org
>>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:discuss-bounces at __
>>>>> lists.osgeo.org
>>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>>] On Behalf Of Jachym
>>>>> Cepicky [jachym.cepicky at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com><__mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.
>>>>> __com
>>>>> <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>>]
>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:27 AM
>>>>> > To: Vaclav Petras
>>>>> > Cc: OSGeo Discussions; incubator at lists.osgeo.org
>>>>> <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org><__mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.
>>>>> __org
>>>>> <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>>
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Vašku,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > just side note: yes, whith the new "Labs" initiative
>>>>> "OSGeo-Labs" have to change their name.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > My idea would rather be to get rid of current OSGeo- "labs" and
>>>>> "projects" and start with new "OSGeo-projects" and metioned star
>>>>> (or similar) rating system.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Than for current OSGeo-Labs "OSGeo-project level 1" would make
>>>>> it (or similar)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Jachym
>>>>> >
>>>>> > po 2. 3. 2015 v 18:33 odesílatel Vaclav Petras
>>>>> <wenzeslaus at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com><mailto:w__enzeslaus at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com>><mailto:we__nzeslaus at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com><mailto:wenz__eslaus at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com>>>> napsal:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:44 AM, Jachym Cepicky
>>>>> <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com><__mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.
>>>>> __com
>>>>> <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>><mailto:jachym.cepicky at __
>>>>> gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com><mailto:jachym.__cepicky at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > former "OSGeo Labs" (now it has no name is slowly forgotten in
>>>>> past, but you can find more at
>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/__OSGeo_Labs
>>>>> <http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Labs>)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hi Jachym,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > do you think that with the renewal you can replace the name
>>>>> "OSGeo Labs" by something else? Now we have also ISPRS-ICA-OSGeo
>>>>> Research and Educational laboratories which might be often
>>>>> shortened to OSGeo Labs, although I prefer OSGeoRELs for writing.
>>>>> The mainling list is ica-osgeo-labs. Put perhaps it is not such
>>>>> an issue since the term "Geo for All" (http://www.geoforall.org/)
>>>>> is now used more and more (well, the linked website as OSGeo Labs
>>>>> in the title element).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks for taking this into consideration,
>>>>> > Vaclav
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
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