[OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure
Jody Garnett
jody.garnett at gmail.com
Thu Mar 5 14:19:10 PST 2015
I completely understand Daniel, I think a "star" belittles the amount of
work (and operational change) involved in meeting OSGeo's requirements.
If it helps I am not talking about diluting incubation, instead opening up
to more projects (by forgoing the requirement to have a mentor). All
projects in incubation would be operating against the same graduation
checklist.
All of the projects in incubation currently have made significant progress,
most are just waiting on a "sprint" or "sponsor" to grind through their
code review. I wonder if pycsw could share how long their code review took?
--
Jody Garnett
On 5 March 2015 at 11:57, Daniel Morissette <dmorissette at mapgears.com>
wrote:
> I'm not sure I like diluting the "Incubated Project" status by turning it
> into a star rating in which incubated and non-incubated projects are mixed.
>
> Incubated projects have taken steps to review their code and adjust their
> way to operate to meet several requirements, and just a set of stars do not
> relay that properly to the outside world.
>
> That being said, I have no alternative name to offer for the "OSGeo Labs"
> pre-incubation status at the moment, so I'll stay out of the debate.
>
> Daniel
>
>
> On 2015-03-05 5:52 AM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
>
>> Or you’re saying you want to address this with the stars system? So 1
>> star for existing labs projects for instance?
>>
>> Jody, as chair of the incubation committee, what’s your take on this?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Bart
>>
>> On 05 Mar 2015, at 11:51, Bart van den Eijnden <bartvde at osgis.nl
>>> <mailto:bartvde at osgis.nl>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don’t think you can put projects that have gone through incubation
>>> and the projects that still have to incubate at the same level. But
>>> that’s my opinion only.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Bart
>>>
>>> On 05 Mar 2015, at 11:18, Jachym Cepicky <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Guys,
>>>>
>>>> I think you are trying to find a term for something, I would like to
>>>> get rid of. "OSGeo Project" is, what I would like to achieve for both
>>>> - today's projects and labs together under one hat.
>>>>
>>>> Or anybody thinks completely different?
>>>>
>>>> Just my $.02
>>>> J
>>>>
>>>> čt 5. 3. 2015 v 9:08 odesílatel Suchith Anand
>>>> <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk
>>>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>> napsal:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, i think "Incubator Projects" is an appropriate name for this.
>>>>
>>>> Vaclav - Is this ok for you?
>>>>
>>>> Suchith
>>>> __________________________________________
>>>> From: Bart van den Eijnden [bartvde at osgis.nl
>>>> <mailto:bartvde at osgis.nl>]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 7:34 AM
>>>> To: Vaclav Petras
>>>> Cc: Suchith Anand; discuss at lists.osgeo.org
>>>> <mailto:discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure
>>>>
>>>> I agree Community Projects is a confusing name.
>>>>
>>>> What about incubator projects? That’s the term that Apache uses.
>>>>
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org <http://incubator.apache.org/>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Bart
>>>>
>>>> On 04 Mar 2015, at 23:25, Vaclav Petras <wenzeslaus at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com><mailto:w__enzeslaus at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Suchith Anand
>>>> <Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.__uk
>>>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk><mailto:Suchith.Anand at __
>>>> nottingham.ac.uk
>>>> <mailto:Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk>>> wrote:
>>>> Thanks Jeff.
>>>>
>>>> Though we had lots of discussions afterwards and continuing on
>>>> this , we couldnt find any solution till now. So this might be a
>>>> good opportunity to modify the Incubation's "labs" term, to
>>>> something like "Community Projects" to avoid confusion if that is
>>>> acceptable to Vaclav, Jachym and others. Many thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Well, I'm not particularly fond of "Community Projects" as a
>>>> name. Even mature FOSS projects are community projects in one way
>>>> or the other. Unfortunately, I don't have other suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> Vaclav
>>>>
>>>> Suchith
>>>>
>>>> __________________________________________
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>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>>] On Behalf Of Jeff
>>>> McKenna [jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com
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>>>> To: discuss at lists.osgeo.org
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>>>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure
>>>>
>>>> (we are approaching 2 full years that this "labs" naming has been an
>>>> issue and discussed[1])
>>>>
>>>> Today, knowing how ingrained the term 'lab' is in the GeoForAll
>>>> education network, maybe Jachym is correct that it is a good time to
>>>> modify the Incubation's "labs" term, to something like "Community
>>>> Projects".
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/__pipermail/ica-osgeo-labs/2013-
>>>> __June/000134.html
>>>> <http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/ica-osgeo-labs/2013-
>>>> June/000134.html>
>>>>
>>>> -jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2015-03-03 3:42 AM, Suchith Anand wrote:
>>>> > Vaclav,
>>>> >
>>>> > Please accept my sincere apologies as it was my mistake that i
>>>> did not think on this when we started the ICA-OSGeo Labs
>>>> initiative (so many things were going on at that time!).
>>>> >
>>>> > In universities, we generally use the "Labs" term to refer to
>>>> infrastructure/people/__facilities for a particular subject. For
>>>> example Botany Lab, Robotics Lab etc. And we wanted to make sure
>>>> there is a dedicated Open Source Geospatial Lab in universities
>>>> worldwide (which includes bringing together people from various
>>>> disciplines, infrastructure (the physical space) and facilities
>>>> to make this happen. Also it is easier to make use of the same
>>>> terminology/structure of "Labs" which is widely used in the
>>>> university environment to get academics start the initiative in
>>>> their respective universities (also it is easier for them to
>>>> convince their higher management on a structure that is known to
>>>> them than reinvent a new term for this) .
>>>> >
>>>> > So it will very helpful for us if you can make use of new
>>>> "OSGeo-projects" and metioned star (or similar) rating system for
>>>> the incubation as then there is no confusion in the future. Many
>>>> thanks for your consideration.
>>>> >
>>>> > Best wishes,
>>>> >
>>>> > Suchith
>>>> >
>>>> > __________________________________________
>>>> > From: discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.__org
>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:discuss-bounces at __
>>>> lists.osgeo.org
>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>>
>>>> [discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.__org
>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org><mailto:discuss-bounces at __
>>>> lists.osgeo.org
>>>> <mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>>] On Behalf Of Jachym
>>>> Cepicky [jachym.cepicky at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com><__mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.
>>>> __com
>>>> <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>>]
>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 7:27 AM
>>>> > To: Vaclav Petras
>>>> > Cc: OSGeo Discussions; incubator at lists.osgeo.org
>>>> <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org><__mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.
>>>> __org
>>>> <mailto:incubator at lists.osgeo.org>>
>>>> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] New incubation procedure
>>>> >
>>>> > Vašku,
>>>> >
>>>> > just side note: yes, whith the new "Labs" initiative
>>>> "OSGeo-Labs" have to change their name.
>>>> >
>>>> > My idea would rather be to get rid of current OSGeo- "labs" and
>>>> "projects" and start with new "OSGeo-projects" and metioned star
>>>> (or similar) rating system.
>>>> >
>>>> > Than for current OSGeo-Labs "OSGeo-project level 1" would make
>>>> it (or similar)
>>>> >
>>>> > Jachym
>>>> >
>>>> > po 2. 3. 2015 v 18:33 odesílatel Vaclav Petras
>>>> <wenzeslaus at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com><mailto:w__enzeslaus at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com>><mailto:we__nzeslaus at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com><mailto:wenz__eslaus at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com>>>> napsal:
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 6:44 AM, Jachym Cepicky
>>>> <jachym.cepicky at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com><__mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.
>>>> __com
>>>> <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>><mailto:jachym.cepicky at __
>>>> gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com><mailto:jachym.__cepicky at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:jachym.cepicky at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
>>>> > former "OSGeo Labs" (now it has no name is slowly forgotten in
>>>> past, but you can find more at
>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/__OSGeo_Labs
>>>> <http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Labs>)
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi Jachym,
>>>> >
>>>> > do you think that with the renewal you can replace the name
>>>> "OSGeo Labs" by something else? Now we have also ISPRS-ICA-OSGeo
>>>> Research and Educational laboratories which might be often
>>>> shortened to OSGeo Labs, although I prefer OSGeoRELs for writing.
>>>> The mainling list is ica-osgeo-labs. Put perhaps it is not such
>>>> an issue since the term "Geo for All" (http://www.geoforall.org/)
>>>> is now used more and more (well, the linked website as OSGeo Labs
>>>> in the title element).
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks for taking this into consideration,
>>>> > Vaclav
>>>> >
>>>> >
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