[OSGeo-Discuss] New Semantic Mediawiki based OSGeo Member Map for the OSGeo Wiki

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Wed Nov 25 03:05:41 PST 2015

Thanks Christian,
I'm getting excited by what you are creating here.

I wasn't able to test entering data on the page. (I assume the wiki 
hasn't been set up for that).

Are you able to enforce word count or character count limits for fields? 
I think each field should have a character limit to ensure consistency 
in the final product.

Is the user able to include wiki formatting? For instance, to create a 
bullet list? If so, this should be encouraged, and mentioned.

Are you able to provide hints for each field? I'd suggest these should 
be provided. Hints will make it easier for people entering the data, and 
also for ensuring consistency and a quality finished product. For prior 
hints, see:

For the Coordinate, is it possible to use a "find yourself on a map" or 
similar for people to determine their coordinates?

We should be careful about helping people protect their personal privacy.
Re address, I'd err on not collecting Street address, probably just City 
and Country.
Is it possible to apply address validation to check for spelling errors?

I'd include a hint next to Email to encourage people to "corrupt" their 
email text such that it not harvestable. Eg: cameron DOT shorter @ g m a 
i l . com

Can you please add a field for JobTitle, and Company which can 
optionally be filled out.

I like the introduction of "LocalChapter" (which should be optional). 
Maybe this should be a pull down list?

I'm wary of adding a "Freetext" field. If we start from an aim of a 
consise OSGeo Advocate list, then the FreeText probably shouldn't be 
used. Are you anticipating using FreeText for another purpose? (Again, 
having comments about what should go in the field would help).

Suggest term changes:

Coordinate => Coordinates
LocalChapter => Local Chapter
Languages => Language(s)
Info => Personal Description

Re OSGeo experience and roles. You seem to be missing: SolKatz.
Jody has picked up that we probably should have another role 
"Committer", where a committer has greater trust and respect in the 
community than a coder who just provides patches.

Warm regards, Cameron

On 25/11/2015 8:21 am, Jorge Sanz wrote:
> Looking at the info I entered back when I did my advocate page I'd add:
> - free text field for Instant Messaging: irc, skype
> - another for social networks (linkedin, twitter, facebook).
> - timezone (maybe this can be obtained automatically from coordinates)
> And I guess the last update info can be retrieved directly from the
> history of the page if needed.
> That's all I think, anyway it looks really good, thanks Christian!
> On 24 November 2015 at 21:46, Christian Willmes <c.willmes at uni-koeln.de> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I implemented a first version of the OSGeo Advocates list based on SMW
>> structured data in my testing wiki [1].
>> Please have a look and provide feedback about what is missing, or what
>> should be changed.
>> Additionally an Advocate map and a sortable table, for example (more result
>> formats available), are also possible to create from the data [2].
>> These lists/maps/tables are created from SMW data, that every user enters
>> via a Form [3] (or template) into the wiki. The best place to enter data
>> about one self, is the User: page.
>> Cheers,
>> Christian
>> [1] http://wiki.cwillmes.de/index.php/Advocate_List
>> [2] http://wiki.cwillmes.de/index.php/Category:OSGeo_Advocate
>> [3] http://wiki.cwillmes.de/index.php/Special:FormEdit/OSGeo_Member/test
>> On 22.11.2015 16:41, Christian Willmes wrote:
>>> Hi Cameron,
>>> On 20.11.2015 20:54, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>> Hi Christian,
>>>> This member map is great. One of the limitations I've noted with the
>>>> OSGeo Advocacy page [1] with that it included your old map, but wasn't
>>>> able to be updated.
>>> Thank you. As I see now, this was related to a PHP related insufficient
>>> memory allocation problem on the server, that is now fixed.
>>>> With the ability to now collect and display structured data, I'd suggest
>>>> that it would be worth re-visiting our OSGeo Advocacy page, and moving
>>>> the current free text descriptions of people into structured data, would
>>>> could then be aggregated into different portals, as you suggest.
>>>> How would you suggest we approach this?
>>>> OSGeo Advocates for the most part have entered structured data about
>>>> themselves, based on the guidelines provided, which is reasonably
>>>> consistent.
>>> I will come up with a SMW based schema for the OSGeo Advocates according
>>> to the structured data given in the current table, this coming week, so
>>> the Advocate table/list (and also a map) can be generated from each
>>> advocate including the according data on his/her User: page.
>>> Regards,
>>> Christian
>>>> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate
>>>> (This page seems to be down, throwing a 500 error. Might be due to new
>>>> wiki not able to use page include statements correctly)
>>>> On 21/11/2015 3:52 am, Christian Willmes wrote:
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>> finally we have a replacement for the old userMap that would not work
>>>>> with the new Mediawiki version of the OSGeo wiki.
>>>>> See: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Category:OSGeo_Member
>>>>> I managed to save the locations from those who provided them for the
>>>>> old userMap.
>>>>> See the documentation, for how to add yourself to the map:
>>>>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Category:OSGeo_Member
>>>>> And also do not hesitate to ask me directly for help if anything is
>>>>> unclear or not working as expected.
>>>>> Thanks are due to Martin Spott (SAC) for his support during the
>>>>> installation on the wiki server!
>>>>> I also wrote a blog post including some detail about the new OSGeo
>>>>> Member Map implementation:
>>>>> http://cwillmes.de/blog/2015/11/20/new-semanticmediawiki-based-osgeo-member-map/
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Christian
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