[OSGeo-Discuss] New Semantic Mediawiki based OSGeo Member Map for the OSGeo Wiki

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Mon Nov 30 11:47:30 PST 2015

Hi Christian,
Thanks for all you are doing, and for updating profiles. I think I might 
have caught you mid update, because there are a number of profiles which 
seem to be half converted.

For the record, I've reviewed many people's profiles, (typically 
correcting English, or trimming to fit within the template formula). 
After notifying people of the updates I made, I haven't received any 
complaints, and have received many thanks. So I think you are reasonably 
safe in helping everyone as you are doing.

One comment on the map.
I notice that the zoom level is set to about a city zoom level. I 
suggest it would be better to zoom to a world level, or maybe 1/4 of a 

The main readers of this page will be looking for "Who is living near my 
conference", and it is easier to recognise a world view rather than a 
city view.

Thanks Cameron

On 30/11/2015 11:15 pm, Christian Willmes wrote:
> OK, I will do this changes now.
> You will probably get email notifications of changes to your profiles.
> Just revert them, if you don't like the changes.
> Cheers,
> Christian
> Am 30.11.2015 um 11:11 schrieb Christian Willmes:
>> Hello,
>> just to explain this a bit more.
>> Here [1], I included the Advocate Table, Map and new directory list, 
>> generated from querying the strucutred data. You can see, that the 
>> current Advocate Page messes up the SMW structured data. Because I 
>> configured the model that SMW handles one page containing 
>> [[Category:OSGeo Advocate]] as one OSGeo Advocate entity.
>> Currently the Advocate Directory [2] includes the data (markup) from 
>> the included User: profiles, that are containing coordinates, 
>> addresses, email, etc..
>> If it is ok, I will remove the '[[Category:OSGeo Advocate]]' string 
>> from the current Advocate directory page [2]. This will clean the 
>> current mess in the SMW generated lists/tables/maps.
>> Thanks,
>> Christian
>> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Usermap-develop
>> [2] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate
>> Am 29.11.2015 um 21:06 schrieb Christian Willmes:
>>> Hello,
>>> I implemented most of the feedback. Some issues are still open [0], 
>>> I will take care of them soon.
>>> To roll the Advocate list out, I need to remove the User page 
>>> includes from the current Advocate directory [1], and each 
>>> Advocate's User: page needs to be edited, with the following two steps:
>>> 1. Include  '[[Category:OSGeo Advocate]]' on the User: page
>>> 2. Edit the User: page with this [2] Form and enter the according 
>>> structured data. (got to the link enter 'User:<your username>' into 
>>> the input box and click on 'create or edit'.)
>>> I can do this... but maybe people are sensitive about their own 
>>> territory (i.e. their own user: page) in the wiki, so I was unsure 
>>> about that?
>>> Next, the User: page includes ({{User:<ussername>}}) on the Advocate 
>>> directory [1] need to be removed, and replaced by the new directory, 
>>> table and map from SMW query.
>>> See here [3] and here [4] how these directory, table and map look 
>>> like on the test wiki (if you look at the markup/source you can see 
>>> how the list, table and maps are included.).
>>> Please also provide further feedback, on things like layout and 
>>> additional features etc. You can tell me directly, or file an issue 
>>> on the github repository [0].
>>> Cheers,
>>> Christian
>>> [0] https://github.com/cwillmes/OSGeoWiki/issues
>>> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate
>>> [2] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Form:OSGeo_Member
>>> [3] http://wiki.cwillmes.de/index.php/Advocate_List
>>> [4] http://wiki.cwillmes.de/index.php/Category:OSGeo_Advocate
>>> On 25.11.2015 23:18, Christian Willmes wrote:
>>>> Thank you for your very good Feedback Cameron and Jorge!
>>>> I created your feedback points as issues for the OSGeo Wiki SMW model
>>>> repository [1]. So you can track the progress, some of them are a bit
>>>> tricky, I think I will need some days. I plan to add the changes 
>>>> during
>>>> the coming weekend into the OSGeo wiki.
>>>> Some answers to questions or feedback, I did not implemented 
>>>> already or
>>>> created an issue on github for, are inline below.
>>>> On 25.11.2015 12:05, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>> I wasn't able to test entering data on the page. (I assume the wiki
>>>>> hasn't been set up for that).
>>>> Yes account creation is disabled, if you want an account for testing I
>>>> can set one up and send the credentials of list.
>>>>> We should be careful about helping people protect their personal 
>>>>> privacy.
>>>>> Re address, I'd err on not collecting Street address, probably 
>>>>> just City
>>>>> and Country.
>>>> The field is optional. Maybe someone want to give the address of his
>>>> work place?
>>>>> Is it possible to apply address validation to check for spelling 
>>>>> errors?
>>>> Interesting, but I don't know any implementation for this problem for
>>>> Mediawiki.
>>>>> On 25/11/2015 8:21 am, Jorge Sanz wrote:
>>>>>> And I guess the last update info can be retrieved directly from the
>>>>>> history of the page if needed.
>>>> This one is quite tricky, because I have to find out how to trigger an
>>>> update of the members data from a users (unrelated) activity on the
>>>> wiki. It should be possible dynamically through the API, but I'm not
>>>> 100% sure yet on how to do it.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Christian
>>>> [1] https://github.com/cwillmes/OSGeoWiki/issues
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