[OSGeo-Discuss] code of conduct: another real case
Alex M
tech_dev at wildintellect.com
Fri Sep 18 10:04:34 PDT 2015
Looks like Jeff or Mateusz needs to login (the designated managers on
openhub), and go to
https://www.openhub.net/orgs/OSGeo/manage_projects
then remove Rasdaman from OSGeo projects.
Am I correct in understanding that is what you are requesting?
I can't see anything on OpenHub that allows affiliating with multiple
orgs so that you could indicate both Ownership and that there is in fact
some relationship to OSGeo.
Side note, "Code of Conducts" in recent years are generally about how
people treat each other in their interactions, with mutual respect.
Thanks,
-Alex
On 09/18/2015 09:41 AM, Peter Baumann wrote:
> just to clarify: it is a _very_ simple step: OSGeo needs to login to OpenHub
> (obviously they have one, otherwise this false claim could not have been
> established) to undo that claim. That simple.
>
> So, when will OSGeo do that?
>
> -Peter
>
>
> On 2015-09-18 17:02, Stephen Woodbridge wrote:
>> Ok, maybe I don't understand, but why doesn't somebody just fix this issue. It
>> seems everyone agrees the listing is wrong on the site. Somebody should have a
>> cease and desist letter sent to the site to change the owner to the correct
>> name or remove the posting.
>>
>> whois openhub.net
>>
>> for the site particulars. This assumes that the person the created the posting
>> on the site is unknown or not available to change it.
>>
>> It might expedite things if BOTH osgeo and rasdaman GmbH sent similar letters
>> making similar requests so the site gets confirmation from both parties and
>> does not need to worry if this is an attempt to "steal" the listing.
>>
>> -Steve W
>>
>> On 9/18/2015 10:28 AM, Michael Gerlek wrote:
>>> I agree: Peter’s issue doesn’t seem to be a Code of Conduct issue, it
>>> seems closer to a Code of Ethics issue — but even that’s not quite
>>> right. I think this is more properly a grievance to be taken up
>>> directly with the Board.
>>>
>>> Suggestion: the CoC team right want to consider a couple lines on the
>>> wiki page that (further) clarify the intent of the Code of Conduct,
>>> as opposed to the intent of a Code of Ethics [1][2]. The two are
>>> similar in their ultimate goals, but address different areas of our
>>> professional lives and activities [3].
>>>
>>> [1] https://www.acm.org/about/code-of-ethics [2]
>>> http://www.ieee.org/about/corporate/governance/p7-8.html [3]
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_code
>>>
>>> -mpg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sep 17, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Camille Acey <camille.acey at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am having a hard time seeing how this is a CoC matter. Camille
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Jeff McKenna
>>>> <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote: Hi Peter,
>>>>
>>>> It may be early here at FOSS4G-Seoul, but I am finding it hard to
>>>> understand your full issue. Can you please explain here to
>>>> everyone what you mean by "I found that OSGeo has claimed rasdaman
>>>> at some time in the past". Claimed how/where/in what way? As far
>>>> as I know, rasdaman is an OSGeo Project in Incubation, and, having
>>>> been at the OSGeo booth here most of this week I have spoken to
>>>> many people coming to the booth about rasdaman. So, pardon me if I
>>>> am in the total dark here, maybe you could explain more to
>>>> everyone, as I sense that you are upset.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> -jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2015-09-18 1:21 AM, Peter Baumann wrote: Hello community,
>>>>
>>>> here is another real case that I would like to raise.
>>>>
>>>> rasdaman [0] is listed on OpenHub [1], like many of us, with owner
>>>> rasdaman GmbH set originally. By coincidence I found that OSGeo has
>>>> claimed rasdaman at some time in the past.
>>>>
>>>> To my total surprise, as rasdaman is in incubation since about 5
>>>> years now [2], and since quite some time OSGeo refuses graduation
>>>> requiring this and that extra documentation.
>>>>
>>>> I find this undercover misappropriation a gross violation of
>>>> professional ethics and request to immediately "give back" the
>>>> project as a remedial action. I could do it myself, but recently
>>>> OpenHub requires a phone number to be entered to which, as blog
>>>> comments show, spam will get sent. IMO it is on OSGeo to bring this
>>>> sacrifice.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I know who has "stolen ownership", but will not disclose
>>>> identity publicly following suggested practice.
>>>>
>>>> Rather, I am seeking contact to and investigation by the CoC
>>>> Committee (or whoever is in charge).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Peter
>>>>
>>>> [0] http://www.rasdaman.org [1] https://www.openhub.net/p/rasdaman
>>>> [2] http://rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeo
>>>>
>>>> PS: On the side, this IMHO justifies an amendment of the CoC rules
>>>> to prevent such a case in future.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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