[OSGeo-Discuss] code of conduct: another real case

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Fri Sep 18 15:07:50 PDT 2015


Hi Peter,
Could I request that you please take a deep breath and then temper your 
language before posting again.
It appears you feel quite offended that ownership of rasdaman has been 
incorrectly assigned to OSGeo. That is understandable.
I've personally taken offense to your suggestions of malice from OSGeo 
and what we stand for. Surely you have been involved with OSGeo long 
enough to realise that OSGeo is just a collection of volunteers who help 
each other?
And hopefully you have noticed that the responders to your emails have 
been asking you to help them help you?

People are attracted to help others when they are having fun, and it is 
not so fun when offers of help attract a rude response. So could you 
please be more helpful (and specific) in answering those offering to 
help you.

This will be my last post on this thread.

Warm regards,
Cameron

On 19/09/2015 2:41 am, Peter Baumann wrote:
> just to clarify: it is a _very_ simple step: OSGeo needs to login to OpenHub
> (obviously they have one, otherwise this false claim could not have been
> established) to undo that claim. That simple.
>
> So, when will OSGeo do that?
>
> -Peter
>
>
> On 2015-09-18 17:02, Stephen Woodbridge wrote:
>> Ok, maybe I don't understand, but why doesn't somebody just fix this issue. It
>> seems everyone agrees the listing is wrong on the site. Somebody should have a
>> cease and desist letter sent to the site to change the owner to the correct
>> name or remove the posting.
>>
>> whois openhub.net
>>
>> for the site particulars. This assumes that the person the created the posting
>> on the site is unknown or not available to change it.
>>
>> It might expedite things if BOTH osgeo and rasdaman GmbH sent similar letters
>> making similar requests so the site gets confirmation from both parties and
>> does not need to worry if this is an attempt to "steal" the listing.
>>
>> -Steve W
>>
>> On 9/18/2015 10:28 AM, Michael Gerlek wrote:
>>> I agree: Peter’s issue doesn’t seem to be a Code of Conduct issue, it
>>> seems closer to a Code of Ethics issue — but even that’s not quite
>>> right. I think this is more properly a grievance to be taken up
>>> directly with the Board.
>>>
>>> Suggestion: the CoC team right want to consider a couple lines on the
>>> wiki page that (further) clarify the intent of the Code of Conduct,
>>> as opposed to the intent of a Code of Ethics [1][2]. The two are
>>> similar in their ultimate goals, but address different areas of our
>>> professional lives and activities [3].
>>>
>>> [1] https://www.acm.org/about/code-of-ethics [2]
>>> http://www.ieee.org/about/corporate/governance/p7-8.html [3]
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_code
>>>
>>> -mpg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sep 17, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Camille Acey <camille.acey at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am having a hard time seeing how this is a CoC matter. Camille
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Jeff McKenna
>>>> <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote: Hi Peter,
>>>>
>>>> It may be early here at FOSS4G-Seoul, but I am finding it hard to
>>>> understand your full issue.  Can you please explain here to
>>>> everyone what you mean by "I found that OSGeo has claimed rasdaman
>>>> at some time in the past".  Claimed how/where/in what way?  As far
>>>> as I know, rasdaman is an OSGeo Project in Incubation, and, having
>>>> been at the OSGeo booth here most of this week I have spoken to
>>>> many people coming to the booth about rasdaman.  So, pardon me if I
>>>> am in the total dark here, maybe you could explain more to
>>>> everyone, as I sense that you are upset.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> -jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2015-09-18 1:21 AM, Peter Baumann wrote: Hello community,
>>>>
>>>> here is another real case that I would like to raise.
>>>>
>>>> rasdaman [0] is listed on OpenHub [1], like many of us, with owner
>>>> rasdaman GmbH set originally. By coincidence I found that OSGeo has
>>>> claimed rasdaman at some time in the past.
>>>>
>>>> To my total surprise, as rasdaman is in incubation since about 5
>>>> years now [2], and since quite some time OSGeo refuses graduation
>>>> requiring this and that extra documentation.
>>>>
>>>> I find this undercover misappropriation a gross violation of
>>>> professional ethics and request to immediately "give back" the
>>>> project as a remedial action. I could do it myself, but recently
>>>> OpenHub requires a phone number to be entered to which, as blog
>>>> comments show, spam will get sent. IMO it is on OSGeo to bring this
>>>> sacrifice.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I know who has "stolen ownership", but will not disclose
>>>> identity publicly following suggested practice.
>>>>
>>>> Rather, I am seeking contact to and investigation by the CoC
>>>> Committee (or whoever is in charge).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Peter
>>>>
>>>> [0] http://www.rasdaman.org [1] https://www.openhub.net/p/rasdaman
>>>> [2] http://rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeo
>>>>
>>>> PS: On the side, this IMHO justifies an amendment of the CoC rules
>>>> to prevent such a case in future.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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