[OSGeo-Discuss] code of conduct: another real case

Fri Sep 18 15:58:52 PDT 2015

Hi Peter,

Please understand that OSGeo is having its big annual conference FOSS4G 
in Seoul now, and that you sent all this right before the big final day 
(lots going on).  I note that you chose to send this to the entire 
community, and not tell and ask me directly, since, just now you sent me 
a single line message stating that it was in fact me who "did this". We 
are all working so hard to promote FOSS, on our own unpaid time, giving 
almost our lives to this (putting health and family and life in general 
aside).  I ask you for some respect, please.

Regarding OpenHub, this apparently happened, by the logs, on 13 March 
2013, me "claiming" the rasdaman project for the OSGeo listing on 
OpenHub.  I vaguely remember Mateusz setting the organization up on 
OpenHub and then letting me know (I think through IRC, as I cannot find 
any e-mail messages), and he added me as the owner.  I believe he only 
added a few projects, and then I added all of the OSGeo projects into 
the OpenHub listing.

I did not do this with any ill intention. At all.  I apologize for this, 
I did not mean to appear to be stealing or claiming anything, other than 
listing rasdaman under the OSGeo umbrella, as I/we do for all incubating 
projects.

I have logged into OpenHub (likely my first time since that same day in 
2013) and undid that change.

If you have a problem with my actions, you can contact the other OSGeo 
Board members directly or use the Charter members mailing list, and then 
ask for repercussions against myself.  Until then I will keep trying my 
best to promote all OSGeo projects and Open Source geospatial.

I hope you are well.  Hello from FOSS4G-Seoul.

Yours,

-jeff

-- 
Jeff McKenna
President, OSGeo
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna

On 2015-09-19 1:41 AM, Peter Baumann wrote:
> just to clarify: it is a _very_ simple step: OSGeo needs to login to OpenHub
> (obviously they have one, otherwise this false claim could not have been
> established) to undo that claim. That simple.
>
> So, when will OSGeo do that?
>
> -Peter
>
>
> On 2015-09-18 17:02, Stephen Woodbridge wrote:
>> Ok, maybe I don't understand, but why doesn't somebody just fix this issue. It
>> seems everyone agrees the listing is wrong on the site. Somebody should have a
>> cease and desist letter sent to the site to change the owner to the correct
>> name or remove the posting.
>>
>> whois openhub.net
>>
>> for the site particulars. This assumes that the person the created the posting
>> on the site is unknown or not available to change it.
>>
>> It might expedite things if BOTH osgeo and rasdaman GmbH sent similar letters
>> making similar requests so the site gets confirmation from both parties and
>> does not need to worry if this is an attempt to "steal" the listing.
>>
>> -Steve W
>>
>> On 9/18/2015 10:28 AM, Michael Gerlek wrote:
>>> I agree: Peter’s issue doesn’t seem to be a Code of Conduct issue, it
>>> seems closer to a Code of Ethics issue — but even that’s not quite
>>> right. I think this is more properly a grievance to be taken up
>>> directly with the Board.
>>>
>>> Suggestion: the CoC team right want to consider a couple lines on the
>>> wiki page that (further) clarify the intent of the Code of Conduct,
>>> as opposed to the intent of a Code of Ethics [1][2]. The two are
>>> similar in their ultimate goals, but address different areas of our
>>> professional lives and activities [3].
>>>
>>> [1] https://www.acm.org/about/code-of-ethics [2]
>>> http://www.ieee.org/about/corporate/governance/p7-8.html [3]
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_code
>>>
>>> -mpg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sep 17, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Camille Acey <camille.acey at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am having a hard time seeing how this is a CoC matter. Camille
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Jeff McKenna
>>>> <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com> wrote: Hi Peter,
>>>>
>>>> It may be early here at FOSS4G-Seoul, but I am finding it hard to
>>>> understand your full issue.  Can you please explain here to
>>>> everyone what you mean by "I found that OSGeo has claimed rasdaman
>>>> at some time in the past".  Claimed how/where/in what way?  As far
>>>> as I know, rasdaman is an OSGeo Project in Incubation, and, having
>>>> been at the OSGeo booth here most of this week I have spoken to
>>>> many people coming to the booth about rasdaman.  So, pardon me if I
>>>> am in the total dark here, maybe you could explain more to
>>>> everyone, as I sense that you are upset.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> -jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2015-09-18 1:21 AM, Peter Baumann wrote: Hello community,
>>>>
>>>> here is another real case that I would like to raise.
>>>>
>>>> rasdaman [0] is listed on OpenHub [1], like many of us, with owner
>>>> rasdaman GmbH set originally. By coincidence I found that OSGeo has
>>>> claimed rasdaman at some time in the past.
>>>>
>>>> To my total surprise, as rasdaman is in incubation since about 5
>>>> years now [2], and since quite some time OSGeo refuses graduation
>>>> requiring this and that extra documentation.
>>>>
>>>> I find this undercover misappropriation a gross violation of
>>>> professional ethics and request to immediately "give back" the
>>>> project as a remedial action. I could do it myself, but recently
>>>> OpenHub requires a phone number to be entered to which, as blog
>>>> comments show, spam will get sent. IMO it is on OSGeo to bring this
>>>> sacrifice.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I know who has "stolen ownership", but will not disclose
>>>> identity publicly following suggested practice.
>>>>
>>>> Rather, I am seeking contact to and investigation by the CoC
>>>> Committee (or whoever is in charge).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Peter
>>>>
>>>> [0] http://www.rasdaman.org [1] https://www.openhub.net/p/rasdaman
>>>> [2] http://rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeo
>>>>
>>>> PS: On the side, this IMHO justifies an amendment of the CoC rules
>>>> to prevent such a case in future.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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