[OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Funding code Sprints

Even Rouault even.rouault at spatialys.com
Mon Feb 22 01:00:14 PST 2016 

Le lundi 22 février 2016 08:07:53, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) a écrit :
> Venka and All,
> 
> For my two-pence, which won't even get you a cup of chai in Mumbai, I am
> not a fan of code sprints. Show me any lasting results of those events.

Patrick,

This might be read as a bit a provocative statement to those who have attended 
such events or about to attend them, especially for projects that have proven 
records of existing since 10, 20 or 30 years ;-)
Take the example of the recent GeoServer code sprint where they managed to 
upgrade one of their components which hadn't been possible in previous 
isolated / non-coordinated attempts.
Speaking more personally, the Vienna Code Sprint in 2013 was the kick-off for 
one of the main change that lead to GDAL 2.0 (even if I ended up throwing away 
my insane initial design).
It is also/essentially the opportunity to build or strengthen intra-project 
team spirit, which can be difficult through the usual digital communication 
channels used by teams spread across the world. Or tackle tasks that can be 
neglected otherwise (documentation). I've also experimented many cross-project 
discussions and help, which would be difficult to do in a remote way (email 
exchanges can be tedious when interaction is needed, voice/video meetings 
difficult to plan due to time zone differences...)
So of course one week per itself is small to see big accomplishments, but it 
can be seen as a refuelling step on the long way of project roadmaps.

Even

> As
> a former High School science teacher (almost 30 years ago), I sensed that
> real character development (and results) came from more serious
> application of efforts, the kind of project-based efforts that get
> accomplished by small teams over academic quarters or semesters of time.
> 
> This is some of the thinking that went into designing the Europa Challenge
> that NASA runs in concert with Politecnico di Milano at Como. We certainly
> welcome any support our young champions might benefit from that the OSGEO
> Foundation might wish to provide.
> 
> Whatever process there is for making the request, we would like to apply
> please.
> 
> -Patrick
>  (650) 604-5656 (office)
>  (650) 269-2788 (cell)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of
> Venkatesh Raghavan Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2016 10:25 PM
> To: OSGeo Discussions; OSGeo Board
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Funding code Sprints
> 
> Hi Mike,
> 
> I agree with you. My suggestion to spread out the code sprint was only to
> ensure that the community has some idea some idea when the sprint could be
> expected and when/how to request OSGeo Foundation for support.
> 
> I would like to see more an more code sprints (also incubation sprints
> etc.) being organized in the future being as and when the community finds
> it necessary.
> 
> I think, we only need to ensure that the procedure to request for support
> and guidelines to be followed are know to everyone in our community.
> 
> Best
> 
> Venka
> 
> On 2/22/2016 3:07 PM, Michael Smith wrote:
> > All,
> > 
> > I don't think there is a reason to have code sprints coordinate their
> > times to spread them out over the year. They should run when they need
> > to run. We don't have a cash flow issue that would require this.
> > 
> > And for the Paris Code Sprint, although a request was made, it does
> > not appear at this time that it will be needed with the carryover
> > funding and with the sponsorships.
> > 
> > I firmly agree that Code Sprints are one of the more important things
> > that the foundation does and if there are worthy candidates for
> > funding, then I, for one, would like to see our budget expand to cover
> > these. What we have now is just an expectation based on past support,
> > but if new ones come along that meet our guidelines, I don't see a
> > reason not to support them no matter the time period or if they exceed
> > our current budget.
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > ----
> > Michael Smith
> > OSGeo Foundation Treasurer
> > treasurer at osgeo.org
> > 
> > From:  Board <board-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Venkatesh
> > Raghavan <raghavan at media.osaka-cu.ac.jp>
> > Date:  Sunday, February 21, 2016 at 6:35 PM
> > To:  OSGeo Discussions <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>, OSGeo Board
> > <board at lists.osgeo.org>
> > Subject:  Re: [Board] Funding code Sprints
> > 
> >> Dear All,
> >> 
> >>   Considering OSGeo budget for 2016, I think, it could be
> >>   possible to support 3 or 4 Code Sprints at similar
> >>   sponsorship levels for each sprint as in the past.
> >>   
> >>   I would like to propose to have code spread across three or four
> >>   periods across the year e.g Jan-March, April-June, July-Sept, Oct-Dec
> >>   and have RFP's for code sprints just like we have for our annual
> >>   conference.
> >>   
> >>   OSGeo Code Sprint in Paris starting from today (22 Feb., 2016),
> >> 
> >> fits very well
> >> 
> >>   for the  first quarter of 2016. I see a great lineup of projects
> >>   and participants for the Paris Code Sprint [1].
> >>   
> >>   Code sprints are an integral part of FOSS4G Conferences which is our
> >>   largest gathering of users and developers. It will be appropriate that
> >>   OSGeo Foundation supports Code Sprints at FOSS4G conferences as
> >>   an official event for the July-September period.
> >>   
> >>   Best
> >>   
> >>   Venka
> >>   
> >>   [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Paris_Code_Sprint_2016
> >>> 
> >>   On 2016/02/20 18:07, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
> >>> Dear All,
> >>> this is to acknowledge that there is a topic on discussion within
> >>> the board directors on assigning funds to sprint code requests.
> >>> 
> >>> Up to now a request-voting-fund approach has been followed without
> >>> any specific plan.
> >>> Since the board f2f meeting (thank you community for supporting that
> >>> as i believe it was an enormous opportunity for OSGeo to speed up
> >>> advances and was so fruitful) a budget has been draft and resources has
> >>> been allocated.
> >>> 
> >>> With this mail I would personally like to ask a few questions the
> >>> different
> >>> communities:
> >>> 
> >>> - who is intended to present a fund request for sprint code in 2016.
> >>> This will give an idea of the number of expected requests.
> >>> 
> >>> - do you have preferences on criteria for assign resources and
> >>> eventually what is your choice motivation?
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Thank you,
> >>> 
> >>> Maxi
> 
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