[OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Funding code Sprints

Sat Mar 5 15:21:37 PST 2016

Dirk,

In my opinion, a lot of energy is spent on these 'cute' assignments, equivalent to a big homework project. They do not represent 'real world' working scenarios and rarely produce anything of lasting value aside from the exercise, and the exercise itself doesn’t even qualify as an environment for expanding skill sets. 

It is simply a sprint to an artificial finish line that disappears shortly after being crossed. It does not provide results that benefit the future, nor typically even expand the participants' skill set in any appreciable way. We've got millions of hours invested in these isolated one-off events and millions of dollars, without much to show for it.

The clock is ticking on this planet's ability to find a way collaborative way forward, while using our competitive instincts to achieve that. Encouraging a myriad of crazy races that end up with little that the future can use, seems a huge waste of opportunity in applying these aspiring minds. They could have been contributing to something that is bigger than them, building real-world project-based teamwork skills, and facilitating results that the world not only needs, but can actually use.

The Europa Challenge is trying to be just one example of that. If OSGeo were serious about supporting that, it would certainly have a very positive effect. 

Wherever we choose to put our energy, it would be nice to see it encouraging real building-blocks and not just momentary muscle-flexing. 

-Patrick
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Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Funding code Sprints

Patrick,

You point to an interesting topic. I think there are several types of projects, and geomajas seems to be also in the category you describe.

It could be a good starting point for a discussion how we can best support OSGeo projects in general, and what should be the rules for the allocation.
Code sprints are good for a project to have a lot of things done in a short time for one project, but learning to learn from different projects how they are working together and share ideas and fun could also be a good goal to help open source collaboration.

But if you want to allocate a budget for awards such as the Europa Challenge, this is a separate budget than the code sprint budget, so maybe this suit your goal better.

Dirk

On 02-03-16 18:53, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) wrote:
> Maxi, Dirk and All,
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> For WorldWind’s part, we are more the marathon type or at least 10k, 
> otherwise known as ‘in it for the long haul’ versus sprints or hackathons.
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> And we would dearly appreciate any OSGeo budget that might be made 
> available, please!
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> This would go exclusively to student winners of the Europa Challenge.
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> Kind regards,
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> -Patrick
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> *From:*Discuss [mailto:discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of 
> *dirk frigne
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> *Sent:*Wednesday, March 02, 2016 8:23 AM
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> *To:*discuss at lists.osgeo.org
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> *Subject:*Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Funding code Sprints
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> Maxi,
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> I think we can solve that concern by divide the budget in 2 parts:
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> Assumption that we know already the really strategic code sprints for 2016.
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> (like the FOSS4G codes sprint in Bonn)
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> From past years the board can make a good assumption what the budget 
> for the strategic code sprints should be, and reserve that for these 
> activities for 2016. The second part can be allocated to new and 
> ad-hoc initiatives following a RFP.
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> (and in 2017 we can have several periods with RFP's so we can 
> instantiate a continue process).
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> Dirk
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> On 22-02-16 09:42, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
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> Dear all,
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> the fact that made me rise this discussion is:
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> - we are facing more and more sprint code support requests (really 
> really great)
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> - we do have limited budget (we may not be able to support all the 
> requests)
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> So, how to prevent, for example, that a request in September for a 
> very strategic sprint code is not funded because all the money were 
> already spent?
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> Shall we have a call for sprint code with defined criteria of 
> selection so that all the projects are aware of this possibility and knows the rules?
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> This was my concerns...
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> Best,
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> Maxi
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> 2016-02-22 8:12 GMT+01:00 Mr. Puneet Kishor <punk.kish at gmail.com
> <mailto:punk.kish at gmail.com>>:
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> On Feb 22, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) 
> <patrick.hogan at nasa.gov <mailto:patrick.hogan at nasa.gov>> wrote:
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> For my two-pence, which won't even get you a cup of chai in Mumbai
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> Correct. The current going rate is about 15¢ or 10p.
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