[OSGeo-Discuss] Mentors money
Jody Garnett
jody.garnett at gmail.com
Tue Aug 29 22:09:52 PDT 2017
It is okay Vicky it has been a good discussion and we all learned a lot :)
Thank you for asking.
--
Jody Garnett
On 29 August 2017 at 18:58, Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de> wrote:
> I arrived to OSGeo on 2015, and first time mentor on that year, so I didnt
> know of past decisions.
> Sorry I asked.
> Vicky
>
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 2:18 AM, Anne Ghisla <a.ghisla at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Former admin here.
>>
>> When I became admin in 2012, mentors money was added to OSGeo incomes.
>> I started a discussion with the Board and current mentors about it, and
>> the agreed outcome was that the mentors' money should specifically be
>> allocated for code sprint support. (See budgets from 2013 onwards, and
>> board list/IRC logs for extended information).
>>
>> So it is misleading to say that OSGeo retains the money: it is
>> has been available to projects every year.
>>
>> I welcome mentors to make use of this year's allocated money for code
>> sprints - for next year and onwards (assuming OSGeo will apply for GSoC
>> and gets accepted) the discussion can be reopened. I'm not an admin
>> anymore but I would be glad to contribute with information about past
>> decisions.
>>
>> Best
>> Anne
>>
>> On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 06:59:21 +0200
>> Massimiliano Cannata <massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch> wrote:
>>
>> > Jody,
>> > it was never an option to choose if donating the money or not. Someone
>> > decided on the past and this option was never asked to mentors...
>> > I assumed this was part of the game: get one slot by OSGeo and it
>> > retains the mentor's money...
>> >
>> > But to me make sense to let project use them for their growing and
>> > promotion, for example I would use them to make t-shirt with istSOS
>> > and OSGeo logos for the community... :-)
>> >
>> > Maxi
>> >
>> > Il 29 ago 2017 4:21 AM, "Jody Garnett" <jody.garnett at gmail.com> ha
>> > scritto:
>> >
>> > Trying to hunt through my email, it has been a long time since I did
>> > GSOC. I think it was $500 to OSGeo for each project mentored (really
>> > not sure if that is still the case).
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jody Garnett
>> >
>> > On 28 August 2017 at 18:45, Stephen Woodbridge
>> > <woodbri at swoodbridge.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Really, that is news to me. I never knew we had that option. I
>> > > think we would have liked to fund some additional development for
>> > > the project or defrayed travel expenses for PSC members to go to
>> > > conferences to present papers on behalf of the project.
>> > >
>> > > What is the process for mentors to get the money?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > -Steve
>> > >
>> > > On 8/28/2017 9:36 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Mentors can decide what to do with the money they earn through the
>> > >> GSOC program; in the past many mentors have accepted the t-shirt
>> > >> and donated the money to OSGeo. I know I donated money to OSGeo
>> > >> previously, but was not really specific about to any particular
>> > >> project.
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Jody Garnett
>> > >>
>> > >> On 28 August 2017 at 17:23, Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de
>> > >> <mailto: vicky at georepublic.de>> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> So, then if I undertand correctly:
>> > >> Mentors money is not mentors money.
>> > >> Right?
>> > >>
>> > >> Vicky
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Jody Garnett
>> > >> <jody.garnett at gmail.com <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> We are listing GSOC as a initiative, can the participating
>> > >> mentors make a decision?
>> > >>
>> > >> I have suggestions (such as a donate to the travel grant
>> > >> program for student travel) but it should be up to the
>> > >> participants.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:11 AM Massimiliano Cannata
>> > >> <massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
>> > >> <mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch>> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> I believe that GSoC people should make a proposal to be
>> > >> discussed at board level, of course hints from
>> > >> everyone is welcome...
>> > >>
>> > >> Maxi
>> > >>
>> > >> Il 26 ago 2017 7:02 PM, "Marc Vloemans"
>> > >> <marcvloemans1 at gmail.com
>> > >> <mailto:marcvloemans1 at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
>> > >>
>> > >> Dear Vicky,
>> > >>
>> > >> Before going into your question; decisions to spend
>> > >> money on codesprints or student conference
>> > >> attendance has not been part of the Marketing Committee remit.
>> > >>
>> > >> Perhaps the Board can decide on the what/where/how
>> > >> of this type of support?
>> > >>
>> > >> Kind regards,
>> > >> Marc Vloemans
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Op 26 aug. 2017 om 18:51 heeft Vicky Vergara
>> > >> <vicky at georepublic.de
>> > >> <mailto:vicky at georepublic.de>> het volgende geschreven:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Hello all
>> > >>> This thread started on the osgeo mentors list.
>> > >>> By suggestion of Margherita I tried to move it to
>> > >>> marketing, but it never arrived, so I am sending
>> > >>> to discuss..
>> > >>> Sorry I can not give you links to the different
>> > >>> responses, it so happens that OSGeo google mentors
>> > >>> mailing list is private (for what ever reason).
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Please have a look.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > >>> From: *Margherita Di Leo*
>> > >>> <dileomargherita at gmail.com <mailto:dileomargherita at gmail.com>>
>> > >>> Date: Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:01 AM
>> > >>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo GSoC Mentors] Hello all
>> > >>> To: osgeo-gsoc-mentors at googlegroups.com
>> > >>> <mailto:osgeo-gsoc-mentors at googlegroups.com>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Dear Vicky, Maxi, all,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> The money that OSGeo gets from Google is this year
>> > >>> 500USD per student. Before i was admin and also
>> > >>> before i acted as a mentor, this matter was discussed among
>> > >>> the mentors at the time, whether to distribute the
>> > >>> money among the mentors or to destinate them to
>> > >>> another use, being this decision up to the
>> > >>> organizations participating in gsoc. As far as i
>> > >>> can tell, the problem of distributing the money to the
>> > >>> mentors was to make a lot of small payments of
>> > >>> which a considerable part would be eaten by bank transfers and
>> > >>> currency changes. So it was agreed that the whole
>> > >>> sum should be used to support code sprints instead.
>> > >>> Now, if you guys think this should be discussed
>> > >>> over again, you're welcome, but this would apply to next
>> > >>> year's budget, and should be agreed upon by all
>> > >>> mentors. My personal opinion: I think it more useful to use the
>> > >>> budget for a common purpose rather than
>> > >>> distributing it in small amounts, for example if you don't like it
>> > >>> destinated to code sprints, would be to use it for
>> > >>> financial support for students to attend
>> > >>> conferences. For example at fosdem we have been organizing the
>> > >>> geospatial session and i have every year invited
>> > >>> our gsoc students to present their works but they couldn't
>> > >>> afford the travel and accommodation.
>> > >>> Google also gives 500USD for supporting students
>> > >>> travel to conferences, you mentors will be asked
>> > >>> to propose a name of a deserving gsoc student and an
>> > >>> event that he or she would like to attend and in
>> > >>> case of multiple names we will either split the aid or
>> > >>> choose among the students. Last year if I remember
>> > >>> correctly this call was made directly to mentors
>> > >>> by google to provide names to them of deserving students,
>> > >>> but i'm not aware if anyone of osgeo made the
>> > >>> request or got funded.
>> > >>> Back to your specific request, Vicky, I suggest
>> > >>> you address this to the osgeo marketing committee , that
>> > >>> is administering osgeo's budget, and they should
>> > >>> be able to give you an answer.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Il giorno ven 25 ago 2017 alle 17:22 Massimiliano
>> > >>> Cannata <massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
>> > >>> <mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch>> ha
>> > >>> scritto:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Hi Viky and all,
>> > >>> sorry to be direct (as always :-D) but..
>> > >>>
>> > >>> As far as I know, nobody ever used the mentor
>> > >>> money. They were always, silently (I hear some rumors on
>> > >>> this), retained by OSGeo as organization.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> If is possible to use that money, I think this
>> > >>> should be clearly stated along with the
>> > >>> procedure to access it.
>> > >>> As long term istSOS mentor, i would also be
>> > >>> interested in using these money to support
>> > >>> dissemination of the project.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Regards,
>> > >>> Maxi
>> > >>>
>> > >>> 2017-08-25 17:09 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara
>> > >>> <vicky at georepublic.de
>> > >>> <mailto:vicky at georepublic.de>> :
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Hi,
>> > >>> pgRouting team members, have being
>> > >>> participating mentoring since even before
>> > >>> I joined the team.
>> > >>> There is a FOSS4G in Argentina, and we
>> > >>> would like to use some of the money that was for
>> > >>> mentors, to support that trip.
>> > >>> Do you know how to get those funds?
>> > >>> and/or the process to get those funds?
>> > >>> The money is planned to be used in:
>> > >>> - airplane fare for 1 person
>> > >>> - hotel
>> > >>> - pgRouting, OSGeo and OSGeo-GSoC poster
>> > >>> promotionals
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Vicky
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
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