[OSGeo-Discuss] Mentors money
Vicky Vergara
vicky at georepublic.de
Tue Aug 29 18:58:41 PDT 2017
I arrived to OSGeo on 2015, and first time mentor on that year, so I didnt
know of past decisions.
Sorry I asked.
Vicky
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 2:18 AM, Anne Ghisla <a.ghisla at gmail.com> wrote:
> Former admin here.
>
> When I became admin in 2012, mentors money was added to OSGeo incomes.
> I started a discussion with the Board and current mentors about it, and
> the agreed outcome was that the mentors' money should specifically be
> allocated for code sprint support. (See budgets from 2013 onwards, and
> board list/IRC logs for extended information).
>
> So it is misleading to say that OSGeo retains the money: it is
> has been available to projects every year.
>
> I welcome mentors to make use of this year's allocated money for code
> sprints - for next year and onwards (assuming OSGeo will apply for GSoC
> and gets accepted) the discussion can be reopened. I'm not an admin
> anymore but I would be glad to contribute with information about past
> decisions.
>
> Best
> Anne
>
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 06:59:21 +0200
> Massimiliano Cannata <massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch> wrote:
>
> > Jody,
> > it was never an option to choose if donating the money or not. Someone
> > decided on the past and this option was never asked to mentors...
> > I assumed this was part of the game: get one slot by OSGeo and it
> > retains the mentor's money...
> >
> > But to me make sense to let project use them for their growing and
> > promotion, for example I would use them to make t-shirt with istSOS
> > and OSGeo logos for the community... :-)
> >
> > Maxi
> >
> > Il 29 ago 2017 4:21 AM, "Jody Garnett" <jody.garnett at gmail.com> ha
> > scritto:
> >
> > Trying to hunt through my email, it has been a long time since I did
> > GSOC. I think it was $500 to OSGeo for each project mentored (really
> > not sure if that is still the case).
> >
> > --
> > Jody Garnett
> >
> > On 28 August 2017 at 18:45, Stephen Woodbridge
> > <woodbri at swoodbridge.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Really, that is news to me. I never knew we had that option. I
> > > think we would have liked to fund some additional development for
> > > the project or defrayed travel expenses for PSC members to go to
> > > conferences to present papers on behalf of the project.
> > >
> > > What is the process for mentors to get the money?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > -Steve
> > >
> > > On 8/28/2017 9:36 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
> > >
> > >> Mentors can decide what to do with the money they earn through the
> > >> GSOC program; in the past many mentors have accepted the t-shirt
> > >> and donated the money to OSGeo. I know I donated money to OSGeo
> > >> previously, but was not really specific about to any particular
> > >> project.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Jody Garnett
> > >>
> > >> On 28 August 2017 at 17:23, Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de
> > >> <mailto: vicky at georepublic.de>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> So, then if I undertand correctly:
> > >> Mentors money is not mentors money.
> > >> Right?
> > >>
> > >> Vicky
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Jody Garnett
> > >> <jody.garnett at gmail.com <mailto:jody.garnett at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> We are listing GSOC as a initiative, can the participating
> > >> mentors make a decision?
> > >>
> > >> I have suggestions (such as a donate to the travel grant
> > >> program for student travel) but it should be up to the
> > >> participants.
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:11 AM Massimiliano Cannata
> > >> <massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
> > >> <mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I believe that GSoC people should make a proposal to be
> > >> discussed at board level, of course hints from
> > >> everyone is welcome...
> > >>
> > >> Maxi
> > >>
> > >> Il 26 ago 2017 7:02 PM, "Marc Vloemans"
> > >> <marcvloemans1 at gmail.com
> > >> <mailto:marcvloemans1 at gmail.com>> ha scritto:
> > >>
> > >> Dear Vicky,
> > >>
> > >> Before going into your question; decisions to spend
> > >> money on codesprints or student conference
> > >> attendance has not been part of the Marketing Committee remit.
> > >>
> > >> Perhaps the Board can decide on the what/where/how
> > >> of this type of support?
> > >>
> > >> Kind regards,
> > >> Marc Vloemans
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Op 26 aug. 2017 om 18:51 heeft Vicky Vergara
> > >> <vicky at georepublic.de
> > >> <mailto:vicky at georepublic.de>> het volgende geschreven:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Hello all
> > >>> This thread started on the osgeo mentors list.
> > >>> By suggestion of Margherita I tried to move it to
> > >>> marketing, but it never arrived, so I am sending
> > >>> to discuss..
> > >>> Sorry I can not give you links to the different
> > >>> responses, it so happens that OSGeo google mentors
> > >>> mailing list is private (for what ever reason).
> > >>>
> > >>> Please have a look.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > >>> From: *Margherita Di Leo*
> > >>> <dileomargherita at gmail.com <mailto:dileomargherita at gmail.com>>
> > >>> Date: Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:01 AM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo GSoC Mentors] Hello all
> > >>> To: osgeo-gsoc-mentors at googlegroups.com
> > >>> <mailto:osgeo-gsoc-mentors at googlegroups.com>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Dear Vicky, Maxi, all,
> > >>>
> > >>> The money that OSGeo gets from Google is this year
> > >>> 500USD per student. Before i was admin and also
> > >>> before i acted as a mentor, this matter was discussed among
> > >>> the mentors at the time, whether to distribute the
> > >>> money among the mentors or to destinate them to
> > >>> another use, being this decision up to the
> > >>> organizations participating in gsoc. As far as i
> > >>> can tell, the problem of distributing the money to the
> > >>> mentors was to make a lot of small payments of
> > >>> which a considerable part would be eaten by bank transfers and
> > >>> currency changes. So it was agreed that the whole
> > >>> sum should be used to support code sprints instead.
> > >>> Now, if you guys think this should be discussed
> > >>> over again, you're welcome, but this would apply to next
> > >>> year's budget, and should be agreed upon by all
> > >>> mentors. My personal opinion: I think it more useful to use the
> > >>> budget for a common purpose rather than
> > >>> distributing it in small amounts, for example if you don't like it
> > >>> destinated to code sprints, would be to use it for
> > >>> financial support for students to attend
> > >>> conferences. For example at fosdem we have been organizing the
> > >>> geospatial session and i have every year invited
> > >>> our gsoc students to present their works but they couldn't
> > >>> afford the travel and accommodation.
> > >>> Google also gives 500USD for supporting students
> > >>> travel to conferences, you mentors will be asked
> > >>> to propose a name of a deserving gsoc student and an
> > >>> event that he or she would like to attend and in
> > >>> case of multiple names we will either split the aid or
> > >>> choose among the students. Last year if I remember
> > >>> correctly this call was made directly to mentors
> > >>> by google to provide names to them of deserving students,
> > >>> but i'm not aware if anyone of osgeo made the
> > >>> request or got funded.
> > >>> Back to your specific request, Vicky, I suggest
> > >>> you address this to the osgeo marketing committee , that
> > >>> is administering osgeo's budget, and they should
> > >>> be able to give you an answer.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Il giorno ven 25 ago 2017 alle 17:22 Massimiliano
> > >>> Cannata <massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch
> > >>> <mailto:massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch>> ha
> > >>> scritto:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Viky and all,
> > >>> sorry to be direct (as always :-D) but..
> > >>>
> > >>> As far as I know, nobody ever used the mentor
> > >>> money. They were always, silently (I hear some rumors on
> > >>> this), retained by OSGeo as organization.
> > >>>
> > >>> If is possible to use that money, I think this
> > >>> should be clearly stated along with the
> > >>> procedure to access it.
> > >>> As long term istSOS mentor, i would also be
> > >>> interested in using these money to support
> > >>> dissemination of the project.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>> Maxi
> > >>>
> > >>> 2017-08-25 17:09 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara
> > >>> <vicky at georepublic.de
> > >>> <mailto:vicky at georepublic.de>> :
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>> pgRouting team members, have being
> > >>> participating mentoring since even before
> > >>> I joined the team.
> > >>> There is a FOSS4G in Argentina, and we
> > >>> would like to use some of the money that was for
> > >>> mentors, to support that trip.
> > >>> Do you know how to get those funds?
> > >>> and/or the process to get those funds?
> > >>> The money is planned to be used in:
> > >>> - airplane fare for 1 person
> > >>> - hotel
> > >>> - pgRouting, OSGeo and OSGeo-GSoC poster
> > >>> promotionals
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Vicky
> > >>>
> > >>>
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