[OSGeo-Discuss] Membership process & email

Fri Sep 8 10:04:56 PDT 2017

Hi,

While I agree that all those seconding emails might flood some inboxes
(though most of modern mails have system to redirect and filter
messages), it was a real pleasure to see all the reaction from the
community: people I've never heard about, people I've never read a
message from (ok i'm not that long subscribed to the list) but from a
simple member of the community, it's just a: "WOUAW!!!! What a big and
passionate community!"
And I'm afraid that putting seconding messages elsewhere will just
hide this passion from the community, which imho deserves us: I'm
interested in knowing nominees profile (information sometimes brought
by seconding messages), but I'm not sure i will do the needed step to
check a wiki or a list elsewhere; having it in my box is just easier
and convenient.

my 2cts,
Harrissou

2017-09-08 18:49 GMT+02:00 María Arias de Reyna <delawen+osgeo at gmail.com>:
>
>
> On Sep 8, 2017 6:46 PM, "Massimiliano Cannata"
> <massimiliano.cannata at supsi.ch> wrote:
>
> Why not just nominate people on the list but collect seconding on online
> system, like a form? SImilar to those for voting presentation at foss4g!!!
>
>
> In previous years it was like this and people still flood with +1. Also,
> this year people were sending proposals directly to the list instead of to
> the cro.
>
> We are rebels by nature. People will still send things to the list.
>
>
>
> Cheers
> Maxi
>
> 2017-09-08 17:56 GMT+02:00 Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com>:
>>
>> The other point in favour of email is the discussion aspect, with the
>> board only reviewing -1 votes we are relying our the discussion list to
>> review candidates.
>>
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>> On 8 September 2017 at 07:36, Jorge Sanz <jsanz at osgeo.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Agree, I don't think I'd like a nomination period + election being
>>> carried on with some editings in the wiki and a silent mailing list except
>>> by some announcements.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, answering with a +1 on a mailing list is quick and
>>> easy (and annoying if you don't use filters on your email).
>>>
>>> The off list option, like adding a comment on the wiki, (IMO) would be
>>> followed by fewer people and read by even fewer people. We are all lazy by
>>> nature, and an election process is not the most exciting activity we do.
>>>
>>> I agree the process can be improved, but when thinking about election
>>> procedures, as boring as they are, we need to put the reduction of
>>> participation barriers as a top priority if we want to reach the broadest
>>> audience, at least once per year.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I'm super happy to see such a big number of nominations, and I
>>> want to thank Vasile for the hard work and long hours he's dedicating to try
>>> to cup with such a demonstration of enthusiasm.
>>>
>>> My 2 cents
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 September 2017 at 15:15, Volker Mische <volker.mische at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I think it's valuable to have the nominations being sent to the discuss
>>>> list, but I agree that seconding them should be off list.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>   Volker
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 09/08/2017 01:01 PM, brandon whitehead wrote:
>>>> > Hi,
>>>> >
>>>> > A potentially trivial change would be to keep the process the same,
>>>> > but
>>>> > run through the wiki---i.e. use a wiki page as the venue for
>>>> > nominators
>>>> > to log in and update/edit.  Freeze the page after a certain date, and
>>>> > now there's an archived copy of the process.  Anyone interested in
>>>> > real-time updates can simply log in and "follow" the page, others can
>>>> > visit the page and check the results as they see fit.
>>>> >
>>>> > Note, this is conceptually the same process for nomination and voting,
>>>> > but it is collated via the wiki instead of email.  This also doesn't
>>>> > involve additional work to create an automated system.
>>>> >
>>>> > just a few thoughts from an interested lurker...
>>>> > /Brandon
>>>> >
>>>> > On 08/09/2017 11:34, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>>>> >> Hi,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> There was a discussion with the CROs at yesterday's board meeting,
>>>> >> and a
>>>> >> proposal to use an automated system for nominations came up.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>> >> Angelos
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 09/08/2017 01:01 PM, Till Adams wrote:
>>>> >>> Jeroen,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> good motion! I feel the same and honestly am not able to read and
>>>> >>> check
>>>> >>> them all...
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Till
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Am 08.09.2017 um 11:54 schrieb Jeroen Ticheler:
>>>> >>>> Hi all,
>>>> >>>> It is great to see the OSGeo community being so active and
>>>> >>>> expanding!
>>>> >>>> The process of proposing and voting new members is an extremely
>>>> >>>> valuable part of that!
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> The downside is that email traffic is exploding around this
>>>> >>>> election.
>>>> >>>> I fear the election processes in the coming years already. Should
>>>> >>>> we
>>>> >>>> find another way so propose and second nominees in the future to
>>>> >>>> avoid flooding everyones inbox? (For me these emails seem to make
>>>> >>>> up
>>>> >>>> for about half of my email traffic over the last weeks ;-( ).
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Cheers,
>>>> >>>> Jeroen
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