[OSGeo-Discuss] Changes (and proposed changes) regarding the Code of Conduct

Mon Dec 10 17:09:17 PST 2018

I agree with Jonathan here. I also have my own similar personal story 
from ~20 years ago where I used a French expression as the opening line 
in an email where all the rest was in English... and some of the 
recipients (co-workers) could very rightly have been offended. Actually 
some wondered if I might have been mad at them, but instead of jumping 
the gun, they asked me directly, I explained the meaning of the French 
expression and why I used it in this context, they explained that there 
was a corresponding slang word... that day they learned a new French 
expression and I learned a new word of English slang. I was not being 
careless, I simply had no way to know at the time that there was a 
corresponding English slang word that could have been offending, because 
I am not a native English speaker.

We all had a good laugh in the end, but if it was not for their 
assumption of good faith this could have turned into a huge mess.

I realize that not everybody will agree and I am not planning to enter 
this CoC debate... I just wanted to relay an experience.

Stepping out of this thread now.

Daniel

On 2018-12-10 7:44 p.m., Jonathan Moules wrote:
> Hi Maria,
> 
> Just a thought, but I'm not sure getting rid of the assumption of good 
> faith is a good idea. To do so would be basically assuming people are 
> guilty until proven innocent which runs counter to how these things 
> should work.
> 
> To use a personal anecdote, many years ago I had a black flatmate who I 
> was joking around with and I made a comment that it turns out is a 
> negative racial epithet. Being young and unworldly, I didn't know that 
> at the time and certainly didn't mean it in that context, it also has a 
> perfectly innocent context - the only one I'd ever been exposed to - 
> which is how I was using it.
> 
> Now, reading your thebias.com link, I can see that the author there 
> would suggest I be pilloried for what was an honest mistake. They'd say 
> I was being "careless" or "ignorant" and stepping on their toes. But I 
> don't think either is fair because it's not reasonable to expect people 
> to know everything that could offend everyone, especially somewhere as 
> multicultural as the internet.
> 
> For example, consider this symbol: 👍a simple thumbs-up emoticon that's 
> commonly used to signify "it's all good" and "thanks". Well, it turns 
> out that it's "an obscene insult" in some cultures! I didn't know that 
> until a few seconds ago when I went searching for a simple example.
> 
> I have learnt over the years from experiences in both directions that 
> it's best to always assume good faith if possible. Humans may be the 
> species with the most complex communication on the planet, but that 
> doesn't mean we don't fail often.
> 
> @Ben - Thanks for sharing World Human Rights day. I'm a long time fan of 
> the UNDHR!
> 
> Cheers,
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> On 2018-12-09 12:49, María Arias de Reyna wrote:
>> Dear OSGeo community,
>>
>> As you may already know, I have been working for the last months in 
>> improving our community procedures[1] to make it a safer space. Recent 
>> events in the community have shown that we have a lot of work ahead.
>>
>> We all, as OSGeo, must remove the recent bullying and campaigning 
>> mentality that is unfortunately gradually become a part of our 
>> culture. Disclosing private data or hinting threats is not helpful and 
>> can only make our community less comfortable for everyone. We will 
>> work on improving actions on harmful behavior.
>>
>> This has been a slow task, but there are some actions taking place:
>>
>> CoC committee members have become inactive. I volunteered to pick up 
>> the task and lead a new CoC committee. Right now I am the only CoC 
>> member, but I am looking for more volunteers. If only, to make sure 
>> that if I am involved in any CoC incident, someone else can take care 
>> of it properly as mediator.
>>
>> I want to change also the way incidents and violations of the CoC are 
>> reported. I noticed there are reports being done on person and on 
>> private email, but never through the official channels (which right 
>> now is a mailing list).To improve this, I will ask the SAC to replace 
>> the mailing list with an alias and a form on the website. Also, there 
>> will be a public list of who receives those emails so people reporting 
>> incidents will have a clear understanding of who is receiving the 
>> information and decide to contact privately only a subset of the team. 
>> Replacing the mailing list by an alias that sends the data directly to 
>> the inbox of the CoC team is important, as sometimes incidents are not 
>> reported just because the person reporting is scared to leave a trace 
>> of the report or is not sure who will be reading the report.
>>
>> Another action I am going to propose is a change on the CoC itself. 
>> Our community has grown a lot both in diversity and in numbers, and we 
>> need a strict code of conduct that makes sure marginalized or harrased 
>> people is always covered by it. We can't rely anymore on just common 
>> sense and good faith.
>>
>> Once the new board is settled, I am going to propose to change the 
>> current CoC for another like the Contributor Covenant[2]. As it is a 
>> CoC shared by many communities, this has the advantage of receiving 
>> the upgrades and experience from other communities. As you can see, it 
>> fixes some of the bugs from our CoC, like the assuming good intent and 
>> good faith[3] part that made the current CoC useless on most cases. I 
>> will propose to add some foreword to adapt to specifities for our 
>> community, but in my opinion, the latest version of the Contributor 
>> Covenant is easy to read, simple, and cover most of what we need. My 
>> hope is that this new CoC can be adapted to all OSGeo Projects and 
>> Events that don't already have a CoC, so we have full OSGeo universe 
>> covered by default.
>>
>> I hope this actions will prove useful in the medium term and we don't 
>> have to see more members leaving the community. We should remember to 
>> be empathic and kind. We are all seeking the same goals and we should 
>> encourage cooperation, not hinder each other. I know that developer 
>> communities are very used to these bad behaviours, but I'm confident 
>> we can grow better.
>>
>> Have a nice day!
>> María.
>>
>>
>> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2018-August/011640.html
>> [2] https://www.contributor-covenant.org/
>> [3] 
>> https://thebias.com/2017/09/26/how-good-intent-undermines-diversity-and-inclusion/
>>
>>
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