[OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts

[Jody Garnett]

Make a proposal to the board if you want to set this up as a cross project
initiative.

Marketing board would happy to accept your proposal also (this is a barrier
to adoption).

Approach project PSC individually also works.

There is a PDF on osgeo GitHub on how to do this kind of thing ...

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 5:36 PM Nyall Dawson <nyall.dawson at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 23:38, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > This discussion starts to get into the value, it is a lot of work to
> gather up these original or alternate sources ... both for end users
> migrating to open source, and for OSGeo projects to do on their own.
> >
> > I think this would be a great group project.
>
> Brett has recently compiled a summary of these fonts and symbols here:
> https://github.com/Saijin-Naib/ESRI-Fonts-Cheat-Sheets
>
> What I think we should aim for is an equivalent of the "Liberation"
> font package, which implements freely licensed equivalents of the
> standard Windows font packages (Arial, Times New Roman, etc), with
> identical font metrics and similar styling so that they can be used
> effectively as a drop-in replacement.
>
> What would be the next step to move forward with this and approach
> osgeo for funding?
>
> Kind regards,
> Nyall
>
> >
> > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 3:44 AM Brad Hards <bradh at frogmouth.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have no idea what is in the map fonts (or even what an ESRI map font
> is), but if you're looking for the symbology for DNC and VMAP, (which sound
> vaguely like: ESRI NIMA DNC LN, ESRI NIMA DNC PT, ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2 LN,
> ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2 PT) its probably based on some variant of the NGA GeoSym
> stuff - MIL-HDBK-857A and MIL-DTL-89045/A
> >>
> >> If you're prepared to deal with converting CGM to whatever that font
> thing is, you can download the definitions from the NGA GWG Portrayal
> Working Group at https://gwg.nga.mil/pfg_documents.php (expect a cert
> warning)
> >>
> >> The ESRI Mil2525C Modifiers and some of those MilSym / MilMod things
> might be MIL-STD-2525 (aka STANAG APP-6) symbology. Not usually treated as
> a font though....
> >>
> >> Brad
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Discuss <discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> On Behalf Of Nyall
> Dawson
> >> Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2020 3:46 PM
> >> To: Even Rouault <even.rouault at spatialys.com>
> >> Cc: OSGeo Discussions <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts
> >>
> >> On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 01:13, Even Rouault <even.rouault at spatialys.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > for my understanding, and hopefully help others, I assume the issue
> is that you have a style definition where there are tuples of
> (font_identifier, symbol_identifier_in_the_font) to define the styling of
> layers with point geometries, right ?
> >>
> >> Partially, but the "bigger picture" is that there's just no alternative
> freely available version of many of these symbol graphics themselves.
> That's the blocker that I've encountered.
> >>
> >> > If that's only the former, then assuming there would be N open fonts
> already covering the whole set of ESRI symbology fonts (unlikely), one
> could possibly create a mapping between each tuple of (ESRI_font_id,
> ESRI_symbol_id) to (OPEN_font_id, OPEN_symbol_id). If the later, then you
> need a complete replacement for each proprietary font.
> >>
> >> It's the later.
> >>
> >> > How many symbols / fonts are we discussing about ?
> >>
> >> There's about 73 fonts total (see list below, may not be complete),
> which average about 100 icons apiece.
> >>
> >> ESRI AMFM Electric
> >> ESRI AMFM Gas
> >> ESRI AMFM Sewer
> >> ESRI AMFM Water
> >> ESRI ArcPad
> >> ESRI Arrowhead
> >> ESRI Business
> >> ESRI Cartography
> >> ESRI Caves 1
> >> ESRI Caves 2
> >> ESRI Caves 3
> >> ESRI Climate & Precipitation
> >> ESRI Commodities
> >> ESRI Conservation
> >> ESRI Crime Analysis
> >> ESRI Default Marker
> >> ESRI Dimensioning
> >> ESRI Elements
> >> ESRI Enviro Hazard Analysis
> >> ESRI Enviro Hazard Incident
> >> ESRI Enviro Hazard Sites
> >> ESRI Environmental & Icons
> >> ESRI ERS Infrastructures S1
> >> ESRI ERS Operations S1
> >> ESRI Fire Incident NFPA
> >> ESRI Geology AGSO 1
> >> ESRI Geology
> >> ESRI Geology USGS 95-525
> >> ESRI Geometric Symbols
> >> ESRI Hazardous Materials
> >> ESRI Hydrants
> >> ESRI IGL Font16
> >> ESRI IGL Font20
> >> ESRI IGL Font21
> >> ESRI IGL Font22
> >> ESRI IGL Font23
> >> ESRI IGL Font24
> >> ESRI IGL Font25
> >> ESRI Meteorological 01
> >> ESRI Mil2525C Modifiers
> >> ESRI MilMod 01
> >> ESRI MilMod 02
> >> ESRI MilRed 01
> >> ESRI MilSym 01
> >> ESRI MilSym 02
> >> ESRI MilSym 03
> >> ESRI MilSym 04
> >> ESRI MilSym 05
> >> ESRI NIMA City Graphic LN
> >> ESRI NIMA City Graphic PT
> >> ESRI NIMA DNC LN
> >> ESRI NIMA DNC PT
> >> ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2 LN
> >> ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2 PT
> >> ESRI North
> >> ESRI Oil, Gas, & Water
> >> ESRI Ordnance Survey
> >> ESRI Pipeline US 1
> >> ESRI Public1
> >> ESRI SDS 1.95 1
> >> ESRI SDS 1.95 2
> >> ESRI SDS 2.00 1
> >> ESRI SDS 2.00 2
> >> ESRI Shields
> >> ESRI Surveyor
> >> ESRI Telecom
> >> ESRI Transportation & Civic
> >> ESRI US Forestry 1
> >> ESRI US Forestry 2
> >> ESRI US MUTCD 1
> >> ESRI US MUTCD 2
> >> ESRI US MUTCD 3
> >> ESRI Weather
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