[OSGeo-Discuss] Is OSGeo presence on ${one-letter-asocial-media} still desirable?

[Karsten Vennemann]

I do agree in general that there should be a transparent decision 
process yes

On 1/21/2025 18:38, Gabriel Roldan via Discuss wrote:
> “My heart goes out to you” doesn’t seem Nazi at all to me. Although 
> maybe little Adolf might have said that sometime, I don’t know really. 
> I do hope though if you sometime see me trying to stop a taxi or 
> calling a friend’s attention from a distance you won’t make the same 
> assumption about my political preferen

Dear Gabriel, I do not know what nationality you are, mine is German and 
as such (with the dark history of my country in regards to the Nazis 
which undoubtedly distinctly influences everyone's upbringing and 
education there) I am extremely sensitive with this subject. Let me just 
say this much - many in my family died due to the Nazis...

Thus, while what the person said does not qualify as anything 
objectionable, the body language while speaking is 100% unmistakable. 
It’s the Roman greeting, which later became the Mussolini and Nazi 
salute, and he did it twice on the world stage. To be clear and 
summarize: It was not something "like" a Nazi salute, no - it was 
exactly that, twice, and on the world stage!

Actions must lead to consequences. There is zero doubt about what he did 
and about what he intentionally displayed on the world stage. The guy is 
not some idiot who does not know what he does. This was no harmless fun 
talk between friends in a local bar. There can be absolutely no foolish 
excuses. There must be no tolerance for this. Neo-Nazis have already 
celebrated what happened!

In Germany, you would be prosecuted and could go to jail for such 
actions—and rightfully so. As Germans, we learned the hard way (at least 
my ancestors did) when we lost our country. My German history teachers 
in school taught me, /“You cannot debate with a Nazi.”/ At that point, 
it is already too late.

Such things must be stopped at the very beginning, before it is too 
late. This cannot be tolerated. Full stop.

I fully support a decision to remove anything related to the person in 
question or companies he is involved with from being associated with any 
OSGeo content everywhere. I also support that the process of such a 
decision being transparent and orderly, though.

Best regards
Karsten Vennemann


> El El mar, 21 ene 2025 a la(s) 6:59 p. m., Even Rouault via Discuss 
> <discuss at lists.osgeo.org> escribió:
>
>
>     Le 21/01/2025 à 22:24, Jody Garnett a écrit :
>     > Yeah updating the website socials has a plan drawn up, but need
>     > volunteers or budget.
>
>     Jody, we are not going to find excuses by saying that removing the
>     bird
>     icon from www.osgeo.org <http://www.osgeo.org> in WP requires a
>     budget, right...  I'm currently
>     logged in in wordpress trying to find where it is. I probably
>     don't have
>     the appropriate rights to do so, but I'd assume this should be a 30
>     second task for someone slightly knowledgeable...
>
>     Even
>
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