[OSGeo-Edu] Edu committee calendar

Fri May 12 01:17:00 EDT 2006

Hi Puneet, no need to cc, I read the discuss list.

Actually you can just add a role to a user, not need to remove the  
role. If you want to use ics, it might be better to create a calendar  
project to manage users with write permission a bit better.

Google is probably a good choice too. Who cares if it is the next  
evil empire, it's great now.

Daniel Brookshier
office 972-422-5261
cell 214-207-6614

On May 11, 2006, at 11:42 PM, Puneet Kishor wrote:

> I have summarize the emails quoted below to make sense of the thread.
> Here is the summary (cc-ed to Danier Brookshier, so he may comment  
> where
> appropriate, and provide his insight) --
>
> Storing calendar .ics file on the edu SVN website makes sense, but its
> users have to be granted a role >= "Project Developer." As I mentioned
> earlier, this is a  pain in the derriere because existing users  
> have to
> be dropped, and then re-added with the desired roles. I can't  
> figure out
> any way of changing the roles of existing users en masse. Besides this
> nuisance value, I am not sure of any security implications of doing  
> this.
>
> I have been exploring other options. One option would be to store the
> .ics file on some other server with simpler security policy (such  
> as my
> own server). Another option would be to use one of the publicly
> available calendaring applications.
>
> I have been trying out the Google Calendar for a while, and it works
> quite well. In fact, I've noticed at least one other publicly OSGeo
> calendar out there. So, I've gone and create an edu calendar on  
> Google.
> I have produced its URL below.
>
> http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/ 
> 6nsplibsdf3vs032rd6osb495c at group.calendar.google.com/public/basic
>
> The only rub is, as far as I can tell, you need a gmail account to be
> able to access and edit the calendar. I have done some testing with
> other clients, and while I am able to see it in Mozilla calendar, I
> can't edit it there. I am assuming everyone nowadays has a gmail
> account, but if you don't I will be happy to send you an invitation (I
> have a bazillion of them left).
>
> We can discuss this more tomorrow.
>
> Markus Neteler wrote:
>> On 5/8/06, Puneet Kishor <punkish at eidesis.org> wrote:
>>> Arnulf Christl wrote:
>>>> Markus Neteler wrote:
>>>>> On 5/2/06, P Kishor <punkish at eidesis.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Markus Neteler wrote:
>>>>>>> On 5/2/06, Markus Neteler <neteler.osgeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/2/06, P Kishor <punkish at eidesis.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Markus Neteler wrote:
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> It asks me the SVN password which means that
>>>>>>>> I need to request a role at
>>>>>>>>  https://edu.osgeo.org/servlets/ProjectMembershipRequest
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Question is, which one is able to write to SVN?
>>>>>>>> - Observer: Read-only access to project code; can also submit
>>> issues;
>>>>>>>> 'observer' of project
>>>>>>>> - Project Contributor: Developer/User that contributes code via
>>>>>>>> Project Tracker
>>>>>>>> - User: User or application developer that makes use of the
>>> software
>>>>>>>> in the project
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have requested 'Project Contributor' - we'll see if that's
>>>>>> sufficient.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, thanks for grating the role.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BUT: It continues to ask me the password. Apparently I am not  
>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>> as 'Project Contributor' to modify the SVN alias ical file  
>>>>>>> therein.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have made you a "Project co-owner/contributor." Try now and  
>>>>>> let me
>>>>>> know.
>>>>> Works!
>>>>> Please reload your calendar now :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I have modified the title to "EduCom meeting" and added
>>>>> an pop-up alarm one hour before (hope that's ok).
>>>>>
>>>>> So, only "Project co-owner/contributor" level works for modifying
>>>>> the calendar since it is stored in SVN.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>>
>>>>> Markus
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> what I found out so far: you need to be >= "Project Developer"  
>>>> to write
>>>> to SVN. "Owner" and "Co-Owner" can also write to SVN,  
>>>> additionally the
>>>> "Co-Owner" can modify Mailing Lists issues and the "Owner" can  
>>>> delete
>>>> the complete project with one single click (which is a very cool  
>>>> and
>>>> highly useful feature that every Owner should immediately try out).
>>>> "Users" may add tracker issues and the "Observer" does not  
>>>> really get
>>>> anything but a few more links with announcements on the start page
>>> after
>>>> login.
>>>
>>> I would be happy to convert everyone who desires into a ">= Project
>>> Developer." Sadly, unless I am mistaken, this is not a one-click  
>>> task. I
>>> have to actually delete an existing membership, and then re-add  
>>> it with
>>> the desired new role.
>>
>> Puneet,
>>
>> I feel that Daniel needs to be put into CC to get an answer from
>> him (he is probably the only person who knows...).
>>
>>
>>> I have just moved to a new webhost for myself, and they support  
>>> WebDAV.
>>> I will be happy to move the Edu calendar there (my own calendars  
>>> will be
>>> moving there) as there would not be all this hassle of roles.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Since we don't want to out the project installation at risk
>> but want to have a multi-edit calendar, it may be a good idea
>> (of course not really following the OSGeo idea)
>>
>> Markus
>>
>>
>>
>>>> I have reported that the CN help is not good at relaying this
>>>> information but it seems to not have been amended yet.
>>>>
>>>> I have no idea on how to start a branch and allow developers  
>>>> commits
>>> for
>>>> that branch only using the CN infrastructure.
>>>>
>>>> Arnulf.
>>>>
>>>>>> If this doesn't work then we will revert to my more sub-optimal
>>>>>> approach... I will maintain the calendar, and everyone can  
>>>>>> send me
>>> the
>>>>>> events and I will enter them. Not satisfying, but at least  
>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>> will know what everyone else in the edu.osgeo world is up to. If
>>>>>> someone else has any other bright ideas, let me know (cc-ing  
>>>>>> to the
>>>>>> entire list)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Puneet Kishor
>>>
>>
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