[OSGeo-Edu] Free and open source your documentation efforts

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Quoting Arnulf Christl <arnulf.christl at ccgis.de>:
This work can not be sold as part of a commercial Product, It is 
intended for educational purposes and free exchange of information.

If I wanted it sold for a profit in a Commercial Environment, I would 
not post it open source on the web and use it for a free web course, 
Instead I would Package and sell it myself.

And why should I spend all the time and effort to generate open source 
material so someone else could package it and sell it for their benefit?

It was intentional about the non-commercial part.
>
> On Sat, October 7, 2006 22:01, Przemys³aw Bojczuk wrote:
>> Arnulf Christl wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gary,
>>> I am wondering whether it is a good idea to restrict use of the course
>>> data to "Noncommercial. The user may not use this work for commercial
>>> purposes."
>> (...)
>>> But if you restrict course work to non-commercial use you exclude all
>>> those fine professionals on creating new and enhancing existing material
>>> because they will not have any interest in producing something they can
>>> not use to pay their bills. On the other hand we (commercials) waste a
>>> lot of energy producing training material that will only be use to a few
>>> people who can afford it. Both does not make much sense.
>>
>> I'm not sure which non-commercial licence you are talking about here,
>> but for example Creative Commons NonCommercial makes a lot of sense.
>> When you publish your work under this licence (let's say
>> Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives) it means nobody *but you* can
>> take it and sell it, but it *doesn't* restrain you from making money
>> from it. It means your work will be freely distributable among
>> self-study people and university people etc., but you will still be able
>> to print it and sell it (in any form) and make money from it.
>
> So it does actually not solve my problem. All commercial enterprises will
> need to prepare their own training material and not be able to share what
> has already been done. So again we are reinventing the wheel. Additionally
> no commercial enterprise will be able to tap on the stuff that has been
> produced at universities and thus will also not enhance it. There is no
> point in doing that.
>
>> So using CC NonCommercial license actually solves both problems
>> stated in your last thought: it helps people who decide to
>> publish their work for free to retain their copyrights and it
>> should encourage the commercial creators to share their work with
>> people who wouldn't pay for it anyway.
>>
>> I hope that clarified some things for you.
>
> Clarified yes, but it does not solve the problem. The non-commercial
> restriction prevents us from getting things together as well as they
> could. The problem is that we make money not by selling the material (how
> much will anybody pay for course material) but for the actual teaching and
> training, providing for space and infrastructure. The price that we can
> get out of selling the course material does not pay for the work that goes
> into it.
>
> Probably one of the problems is that in some legislations the term
> 'copyright' comprises both the rights of the originator of a work and the
> rights for commercial exploitation. In some legislations (most Europeans)
> there is a clear distinction which helps to clarify the rather messy
> combined term of 'copyright'. Additionally it is not possible to strip the
> originator's 'creator' rights from his or her work, only the commercial
> exploitation rights can be transferred to another entity.
>
>> Best regards,
>> Przemys³aw Bojczuk
>>
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