[OSGeo-Edu] Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] Introdution tutorials

[Ned Horning]

Greetings,

I largely agree with Puneet. Having links with a short description seems
sensible to me although I think we should also offer server space to folks
that want to use it. This would be transparent to a user browsing the
resources if all of the resources are accessible through the same interface.


It's probably a good idea to keep it simple for now so we can get a link
page up fast but in the not too distant future it would be good to put some
thought into how users might want to browse or search for education
resources so it's easy for people to find what they are looking for. I also
like the idea of adding a way for users to enter comments about the
different tutorials.

So, how do we move forward with this? Is there someone in the education
committee who should/is willing to take the lead on this to reach consensus
and put something take the appropriate action? I am willing to help out.

Ned


> -----Original Message-----
> From: edu_discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:edu_discuss-
> bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of P Kishor
> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:48 AM
> To: OSGeo-edu
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Edu] Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] Introdution tutorials
> 
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Education_and_Curriculum_Committee
> section 4 is for "Existing open educational geospatial materials".
> Adding a link there would be the easiest. See below for my reasoning
> --
> 
> On 2/24/07, Markus Neteler <neteler.osgeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi eduCom,
> >
> > for those not following the main discuss list, here a relevant FWD.
> > I think that we (eduCom) should take care of this request.
> >
> > Best,
> > markus
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Tyler Mitchell <tylermitchell at shaw.ca>
> > Date: Feb 22, 2007 12:14 AM
> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Introdution tutorials
> > To: OSGeo Discussions <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>, Gary Watry
> > <watry at coaps.fsu.edu>
> >
> > On 21-Feb-07, at 3:52 AM, watry at steam.coaps.fsu.edu wrote:
> > > If you go to http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/gis and along the bottom of
> > > the page are three tutorials. Quantum GIS, uDig, MapWindows. We are
> > > getting ready to produce OpenJump, OSSIM, and one more package this
> > > spring.
> > >
> > > My Question is that at one point in the past, It was discussed
> > > about the possibility to place these on the OSGEO Website.
> > >
> > > So?
> > > 1. Is the loading of tutorials on the osgeo website still the
> > > concept or is just linking to other sites the plan?
> > >
> 
> In my opinion linking would be preferred. Why?
> 
> One, it is the quickest. If you want to add something you made, you
> don't have to wait for anyone to help you load it. You just go, edit
> the wiki, add the link to your own material, and you are done.
> 
> Two, it keeps the freshest version always available to the public.
> Otherwise you would have to keep syncing the one you have loaded on
> the OSGeo website with the one you are probably continually developing
> in your lab or office.
> 
> Three, by hosting it on your own server, other benefits accrue. For
> example, you can keep track of how many folks are downloading your
> tutorial by looking at your logs.
> 
> And, finally, four, you don't get into the hassle of figuring the most
> suitable license, or being in conformance with OSGeo's processes and
> procedures. Just state the license along with the link, and you are
> good to go.
> 
> For example --
> 
> - GITTA - Geographic Information Technology Training Alliance with
> material under Creative Commons license
> - my great tutorial under public domain
> - my even better tutorial under capitalist version 2 license
> 
> The only two reasons I can think of why you would want to load a copy
> on OSGeo's servers are: one, you don't have the server resources
> available to host something; and two, you are creating a package in
> colllaboration with others on OSGeo, so wiki is the best method to do
> so.
> 
> If these apply, definitely pursue the route suggested by Tyler below,
> but be aware of the limitations.
> 
> > > 2. how and where does someone go about doing this?
> >
> > This hasn't been discussed for a while, but if the Education
> > Committee wants to host the files on osgeo.org, that's no problem.
> > I'd suggest that the Edu. group start an educational library with
> > public domain downloads available and put yours in there.  We have a
> > similar library (under development) for promotional material and
> > presentations.  Having a branch of it for education would make a lot
> > of sense.
> >
> > Anyone from the Web Committee, including myself, can help get the
> > files online for you when ready.
> >
> 
> 
> 
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> Puneet Kishor http://punkish.eidesis.org/
> Nelson Inst. for Env. Studies, UW-Madison http://www.nelson.wisc.edu/
> Open Source Geospatial Foundation http://www.osgeo.org/education/
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