[OSGeo-Edu] Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] Introdution tutorials

[P Kishor]

On 2/26/07, Ned Horning <horning at amnh.org> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I largely agree with Puneet. Having links with a short description seems
> sensible to me although I think we should also offer server space to folks
> that want to use it. This would be transparent to a user browsing the
> resources if all of the resources are accessible through the same interface.
>
>
> It's probably a good idea to keep it simple for now so we can get a link
> page up fast but in the not too distant future it would be good to put some
> thought into how users might want to browse or search for education
> resources so it's easy for people to find what they are looking for. I also
> like the idea of adding a way for users to enter comments about the
> different tutorials.
>
> So, how do we move forward with this? Is there someone in the education
> committee who should/is willing to take the lead on this to reach consensus
> and put something take the appropriate action? I am willing to help out.
>

I will be happy to help whoever needs help, but the very idea of
linking on a public wiki (well, public enough, at least after creating
a free login) is based on the hope that the need for help would be
minimized. If one can create tutorials, one can certainly edit wikis.
;-)

Yes, as the links grow, it might be helpful to organize them in some
loose categories, probably just by the level of freedom of license.
Other than that, a better search might be a better aid, as too much
organization always fails because of the laws of entropy.








>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: edu_discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:edu_discuss-
> > bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of P Kishor
> > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 10:48 AM
> > To: OSGeo-edu
> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Edu] Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] Introdution tutorials
> >
> > http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Education_and_Curriculum_Committee
> > section 4 is for "Existing open educational geospatial materials".
> > Adding a link there would be the easiest. See below for my reasoning
> > --
> >
> > On 2/24/07, Markus Neteler <neteler.osgeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi eduCom,
> > >
> > > for those not following the main discuss list, here a relevant FWD.
> > > I think that we (eduCom) should take care of this request.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > markus
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: Tyler Mitchell <tylermitchell at shaw.ca>
> > > Date: Feb 22, 2007 12:14 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Introdution tutorials
> > > To: OSGeo Discussions <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>, Gary Watry
> > > <watry at coaps.fsu.edu>
> > >
> > > On 21-Feb-07, at 3:52 AM, watry at steam.coaps.fsu.edu wrote:
> > > > If you go to http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/gis and along the bottom of
> > > > the page are three tutorials. Quantum GIS, uDig, MapWindows. We are
> > > > getting ready to produce OpenJump, OSSIM, and one more package this
> > > > spring.
> > > >
> > > > My Question is that at one point in the past, It was discussed
> > > > about the possibility to place these on the OSGEO Website.
> > > >
> > > > So?
> > > > 1. Is the loading of tutorials on the osgeo website still the
> > > > concept or is just linking to other sites the plan?
> > > >
> >
> > In my opinion linking would be preferred. Why?
> >
> > One, it is the quickest. If you want to add something you made, you
> > don't have to wait for anyone to help you load it. You just go, edit
> > the wiki, add the link to your own material, and you are done.
> >
> > Two, it keeps the freshest version always available to the public.
> > Otherwise you would have to keep syncing the one you have loaded on
> > the OSGeo website with the one you are probably continually developing
> > in your lab or office.
> >
> > Three, by hosting it on your own server, other benefits accrue. For
> > example, you can keep track of how many folks are downloading your
> > tutorial by looking at your logs.
> >
> > And, finally, four, you don't get into the hassle of figuring the most
> > suitable license, or being in conformance with OSGeo's processes and
> > procedures. Just state the license along with the link, and you are
> > good to go.
> >
> > For example --
> >
> > - GITTA - Geographic Information Technology Training Alliance with
> > material under Creative Commons license
> > - my great tutorial under public domain
> > - my even better tutorial under capitalist version 2 license
> >
> > The only two reasons I can think of why you would want to load a copy
> > on OSGeo's servers are: one, you don't have the server resources
> > available to host something; and two, you are creating a package in
> > colllaboration with others on OSGeo, so wiki is the best method to do
> > so.
> >
> > If these apply, definitely pursue the route suggested by Tyler below,
> > but be aware of the limitations.
> >
> > > > 2. how and where does someone go about doing this?
> > >
> > > This hasn't been discussed for a while, but if the Education
> > > Committee wants to host the files on osgeo.org, that's no problem.
> > > I'd suggest that the Edu. group start an educational library with
> > > public domain downloads available and put yours in there.  We have a
> > > similar library (under development) for promotional material and
> > > presentations.  Having a branch of it for education would make a lot
> > > of sense.
> > >
> > > Anyone from the Web Committee, including myself, can help get the
> > > files online for you when ready.
> > >


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Puneet Kishor http://punkish.eidesis.org/
Nelson Inst. for Env. Studies, UW-Madison http://www.nelson.wisc.edu/
Open Source Geospatial Foundation http://www.osgeo.org/education/
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