[OSGeo-Edu] Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] Introdution tutorials

Mon Feb 26 10:59:38 EST 2007

On Monday 26 February 2007 09:37, P Kishor wrote:
> On 2/26/07, Pericles S. Nacionales <naci0002 at umn.edu> wrote:
> > Puneet,
> >
> > I just read Ned's e-mail.  I also read Markus's reply just now which
> > captures what I wanted to say.  So, what do you say about an IRC meeting?
>
> Sounds like a plan. Except for this Friday morning, I am available all
> other days at 8am in United States CST, or UTC -6. Let me know what
> works for the majority.
>
> To keep the IRC meeting focused, let's discuss this issue of loading
> vs. linking material and move the "OSGeo branding" agenda forward. Of
> course, if you have other ideas to discuss, just bring them to the
> table.
>
> Many thanks,

Hmm, would 8:00AM CST (2:00PM GMT) work for our friends across the two big 
ponds?  I could also make any weekday at this time but I'd like to hear from 
others.  This is a particularly difficult time for those in the western US...

How does Thursday, 1 March,  at 2:00PM GMT (9:00AM EST, 6:00PST) work for 
others?  Here's a link to local times around the world: 
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=3&day=1&year=2007&hour=14&min=0&sec=0&p1=0

-Perry

>
> > On Monday 26 February 2007 09:16, P Kishor wrote:
> > > On 2/26/07, Pericles S. Nacionales <naci0002 at umn.edu> wrote:
> > > > If the Education Committe doesn't want to address this, I will
> > > > recommend that the Web Committee take it on.  I was really hoping we
> > > > (the Education Committee) would take a little bit of time to discuss
> > > > things like this. Perhaps we need another IRC meeting...
> > >
> > > Hi Perry,
> > >
> > > We did discuss it, and the couple of us who commented (Ned and myself)
> > > feel that putting links on the wiki is the quickest (see reasoning in
> > > the included emails below). Perhaps you missed those emails, or
> > > perhaps you have other ideas. If so, please do tell us your thoughts
> > > and we will gladly discuss them. The quicker a clear guidance is out
> > > the best it is for those producing tutorials and wanting to share
> > > them.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Puneet.
> > >
> > > > On Saturday 24 February 2007 09:48, P Kishor wrote:
> > > > > http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Education_and_Curriculum_Committee
> > > > > section 4 is for "Existing open educational geospatial materials".
> > > > > Adding a link there would be the easiest. See below for my
> > > > > reasoning --
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2/24/07, Markus Neteler <neteler.osgeo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi eduCom,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > for those not following the main discuss list, here a relevant
> > > > > > FWD. I think that we (eduCom) should take care of this request.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > markus
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > > > > From: Tyler Mitchell <tylermitchell at shaw.ca>
> > > > > > Date: Feb 22, 2007 12:14 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Introdution tutorials
> > > > > > To: OSGeo Discussions <discuss at lists.osgeo.org>, Gary Watry
> > > > > > <watry at coaps.fsu.edu>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 21-Feb-07, at 3:52 AM, watry at steam.coaps.fsu.edu wrote:
> > > > > > > If you go to http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/gis and along the bottom
> > > > > > > of the page are three tutorials. Quantum GIS, uDig, MapWindows.
> > > > > > > We are getting ready to produce OpenJump, OSSIM, and one more
> > > > > > > package this spring.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My Question is that at one point in the past, It was discussed
> > > > > > > about the possibility to place these on the OSGEO Website.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So?
> > > > > > > 1. Is the loading of tutorials on the osgeo website still the
> > > > > > > concept or is just linking to other sites the plan?
> > > > >
> > > > > In my opinion linking would be preferred. Why?
> > > > >
> > > > > One, it is the quickest. If you want to add something you made, you
> > > > > don't have to wait for anyone to help you load it. You just go,
> > > > > edit the wiki, add the link to your own material, and you are done.
> > > > >
> > > > > Two, it keeps the freshest version always available to the public.
> > > > > Otherwise you would have to keep syncing the one you have loaded on
> > > > > the OSGeo website with the one you are probably continually
> > > > > developing in your lab or office.
> > > > >
> > > > > Three, by hosting it on your own server, other benefits accrue. For
> > > > > example, you can keep track of how many folks are downloading your
> > > > > tutorial by looking at your logs.
> > > > >
> > > > > And, finally, four, you don't get into the hassle of figuring the
> > > > > most suitable license, or being in conformance with OSGeo's
> > > > > processes and procedures. Just state the license along with the
> > > > > link, and you are good to go.
> > > > >
> > > > > For example --
> > > > >
> > > > > - GITTA - Geographic Information Technology Training Alliance with
> > > > > material under Creative Commons license
> > > > > - my great tutorial under public domain
> > > > > - my even better tutorial under capitalist version 2 license
> > > > >
> > > > > The only two reasons I can think of why you would want to load a
> > > > > copy on OSGeo's servers are: one, you don't have the server
> > > > > resources available to host something; and two, you are creating a
> > > > > package in colllaboration with others on OSGeo, so wiki is the best
> > > > > method to do so.
> > > > >
> > > > > If these apply, definitely pursue the route suggested by Tyler
> > > > > below, but be aware of the limitations.
> > > > >
> > > > > > > 2. how and where does someone go about doing this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This hasn't been discussed for a while, but if the Education
> > > > > > Committee wants to host the files on osgeo.org, that's no
> > > > > > problem. I'd suggest that the Edu. group start an educational
> > > > > > library with public domain downloads available and put yours in
> > > > > > there.  We have a similar library (under development) for
> > > > > > promotional material and presentations.  Having a branch of it
> > > > > > for education would make a lot of sense.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone from the Web Committee, including myself, can help get the
> > > > > > files online for you when ready.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Perry Nacionales
> > > > Dept. of Forest Resources
> > > > University of Minnesota
> > > > naci0002 at umn.edu
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> > --
> > Perry Nacionales
> > Dept. of Forest Resources
> > University of Minnesota
> > naci0002 at umn.edu

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Perry Nacionales
Dept. of Forest Resources
University of Minnesota
naci0002 at umn.edu