[OSGeo-Edu] OSGeo Live DVD - ELOGeo

Wed Aug 10 08:17:52 EDT 2011

Unfortunately I will not be able to attend the FOSS4G Edu meeting at Denver.  However I would like to be involved and help.  I agree with all the points delivered below.  I would like to make another suggestion.  I believe Open Source is getting a push in the recent years - for example BASINS is now tied to MapWindow.  I am hoping to build something on BASINS for my Environmental Applications class in Spring 2013 and I think that may be an avenue to work through (examine these type of models that are tied to Open Source GIS programs and create educational materials for them)

Thanks
Tom Mueller

Thomas R. Mueller, Ph.D., GISP 
Advisor: Geography Major with GIS and Emergency Management Concentration 
Co - Director: Pennsylvania View 
Department of Earth Sciences, California University of Pennsylvania 

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From: edu_discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:edu_discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Suchith Anand
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:24 AM
To: Phillip Davis; Charlie Schweik
Cc: edu_discuss at lists.osgeo.org; Pourabdollah; Amir at lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Edu] OSGeo Live DVD - ELOGeo

Thanks Cameron, Charlie, Phillip, Puneeth, Stefan and all others for the feedback and they are very good points that i think are very important for achieving the long term aims for our education efforts in Open Source GIS. The ELOGeo's first  objective was to get the basic structure in place to build upon for the future and now we are going to focus on building collaboration with all interested and apply for funding to build this further so that all these aims are achieved for the future. 

I will be in contact with all of you on future developments and how we all can work together , so that we can build upon all these efforts . The FOSS4G Edu meeting at Denver wil be a good opportunity to discuss and plan future strategies and action plans ( I will be joining the meeting by skype).

Best wishes,

Suchith

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From: edu_discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [edu_discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Phillip Davis [pdavis at delmar.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 5:58 AM
To: Charlie Schweik
Cc: edu_discuss at lists.osgeo.org; Amir Pourabdollah
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Edu] OSGeo Live DVD - ELOGeo

Agreed wont happen without funding.  We are doing almost parallel effort and its costing $1M anually.

http://www.geotechcenter.org/GTCM/Project-GTCM

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On Aug 9, 2011, at 8:17 PM, "Charlie Schweik" <cschweik at pubpol.umass.edu> wrote:

> On 8/8/2011 8:09 AM, Mr. Puneet Kishor wrote:
>>> But what I believe is required is:
>>>
>>> 1. A vision of what a full set of course material will look like, along with a definition of end users and links back to training goals (like the Body of Knowledge and University training courses).
>>>
>>> 2. Writing templates and guidelines, and supporting tools.
>>>
>>> 3. Associated processes and workflows for document creation.
>>>
>>> 4. A dedicated editor/technical writer charged with providing the technical review.
>>>
>>> 5. A project coordinator / champion who will help attract authors, and help authors write funding proposals for their external organizations.
>> I fully concur with the above, in particular with #5 above. The only way to make this happen is to have someone spearheading the effort with funds to back the initiative. Without it, it ain't going nowhere.
>>
>> Puneet.
>>
> I agree with these statements too, mostly. And as I've said in the past,
> Cameron has provided a model on how this can be successfully done with
> his coordination of the Live DVD.
>
> However, the list above is really broad and is perhaps some of the
> challenge of what we are trying to do. I think the OSGeo edu group is an
> eclectic group of educators (different higher ed programs, different
> levels of education, etc.) and it is quite difficult for us to get to #1
> (vision of a full set of course material).
>
> But I think we need to try and collaborate in some other way than what
> we've been trying over the last several years. It's like we're a car,
> with wheels spinning in the sand.  It is not easy to move us forward
> based on volunteer time, alone. So I do agree that we should try and go
> after some funding to get #5 above established (a dedicated project
> coordinator) -- but I don't think that is enough.
>
> A key question is "how to attract the authors?" in #5? What are their
> incentives to participate? In academia, often the incentive is "to
> publish." But are some of our potential authors non-academics (e.g.,
> people in software groups or service organizations)? What are their
> incentives to participate in collaborative training materials?
>
> One idea I think we've passed around before in the Edu group is the idea
> of an edited volume or something on training material. Maybe what we
> should be trying to do is develop a vision for an "edited textbook" on
> open source geospatial concepts and technologies?
>
> In short, perhaps our next collaborative steps should be:
>
> 1) Go after some funds to get subset of people together in a workshop
> format to try and formulate what the "full set of course material
> (Cameron's #1) is and/or what supporting textbook(s) would look like?
>
> 2) Either (A) try and get one or more people to be the "editors" of this
> volume under the traditional academic incentives of "publish" or (b) go
> after some funding to hire someone to undertake the coordination efforts
> Cameron describes above?
>
> Where might we go for funds to support #1? Can a subset of us try and
> write a proposal to go after those funds to bring us together for a
> multiple day work session? Or should this be the topic for an Edu Sprint
> on the last day of FOSS4G in Denver?
>
> Charlie
>
>
>
>
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