[OSGeo-Edu] Peer to Peer University: Community GIS course & Re: [OSGeo-Edu] More on the OSGeo educational webinar idea

Tue Dec 13 17:10:22 EST 2011

Indeed, but he gives kudos to OpenGeo...of course they are the "Esri of FOSS".

Phillip Davis

2011-2012 National Geospatial Technology Skills Competition

Director, GeoTech Center
Professor, CS/IT Department
Del Mar College
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-----Original Message-----
From: Barend Köbben [mailto:kobben at itc.nl]
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:07 PM
To: Phillip Davis
Cc: 'edu_discuss at lists.osgeo.org'
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Edu] Peer to Peer University: Community GIS course & Re: [OSGeo-Edu] More on the OSGeo educational webinar idea

Yeah and @ 1:00 it says "brought to you by ESRI", duh.

On 13-12-11 22:42, "Phillip Davis" <pdavis at delmar.edu> wrote:

>Better listen to this one carefully @ minute 17.  Looks like OSGeo's
>being written off already as irrelevant.  Joe Francica is one of my
>advisory member and pretty much spot-on on many facets of GIS&T.
>
>http://www.directionsmag.com/podcasts/podcast-predictions-for-the-geosp
>ati
>al-marketplace-2012/219405
>
>
>Phillip Davis
>
>2011-2012 National Geospatial Technology Skills Competition
>
>Director, GeoTech Center
>Professor, CS/IT Department
>Del Mar College
>101 Baldwin
>Corpus Christi TX 78404
>(361) 698-1476 (voice)
>(361) 698-1479 (fax)
>(361) 698-1475 (Kim)
>(361) 698-1477 (Minerva)
>(361) 698-1478 (John)
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: edu_discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>[mailto:edu_discuss-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Cameron
>Shorter
>Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:37 PM
>To: brylie at gnumedia.org
>Cc: Brylie Oxley; Charles Schweik; edu_discuss at lists.osgeo.org
>Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Edu] Peer to Peer University: Community GIS course
>&
>Re: [OSGeo-Edu] More on the OSGeo educational webinar idea
>
>Brylie, Charlie,
>I think you both have great ideas for marketing Open Source, and I
>suspect that you might both be describing the same, or similar things.
>
>I have a few ideas on how to attract volunteers to create and then
>maintain an extensive range of quality material. (If you are on this
>list, you likely will have heard some of these ideas before, as they
>are based on the principles of the OSGeo-Live project).
>
>I suggest that we discuss the following questions/suggestions on the
>list here, then copy into:
>http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Artefacts
>
>The key principle is to increase the marketing Return on Effort for
>each volunteer. You do this by:
>
>1. Clearly define the marketing product. Eg: The OSGeoLive Quickstart
>is a document targeted at new users which should be able to show the
>key features of an application in 5 to 10 minutes. This helps authors
>get over "writer's block" and also leads to consistency and increased quality.
>
>2. Break the product into components, and where possible, ensure that
>the components can be used by multiple distribution channels. Eg: The
>English Quickstart makes use of a Project Logo, and the Project Logo is
>used by the ProjectOverview as well as the Project's web pages.
>Likewise, the English Quickstart is translated into other languages.
>I'd strongly urge people building webinars and training courses to make
>use of the Project Quickstarts.  Eg: It would be great to see someone
>create videos/webinars which are based on a script from the Quickstart.
>The bonus here is that we reduce the cost to projects of creating (and
>then more importantly the maintaining) of training material.
>
>So my questions/suggestions:
>* Who is the target audience for Peer to Peer University / Webinar?
>
>* How long should it be? (I think a high value for effort opportunity
>would be to create 5 minute webinars for each project, which is based
>upon existing Quickstarts)
>
>* Is the emphasis to be:
>1. Describing an Open Source Project and how it solves a set of
>technologies, or 2. Describing a technology (which is serviced by one
>or more Open Source projects which are used for in examples)
>
>* What sub-products can you break your product into? Eg, for a webinar,
>I think you would break it into:
>1. Slides
>1.1 Screenshots
>2. Script, or speaking notes (which could be derived from the
>Quickstart
>text)
>
>* What format will you store your products in?
>1. Wiki?
>2. Word/Powerpoint/OpenOffice formats?
>3. Video format? What resolution? 1024x768?
>
>* What is the process/tools should you use in creating your products?
>
>If you have read this far, and still want more background reading, here
>are a few places to look:
>
>*
>http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com/2011/06/memoirs-of-cat-herder-coordi
>nat
>ing.html
>*
>http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com/2008/10/creating-geofoss-distributio
>n-p
>ipeline.html
>* http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Artefacts (and links to
>OSGeo-Live
>processes)
>* http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Pipeline
>
>On 6/12/2011 4:58 PM, Brylie Oxley wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> We are organizing a Community GIS course at the Peer to Peer University.
>> http://p2pu.org/en/groups/community-gis/
>>
>> Would anybody here like to help us develop the course? We can use
>> organizers to assure that the course content is of high quality.
>>
>> If you would like to help with the course organization, let me know.
>> We will make sure to promote you to a course organizer role.
>>
>> Thanks for your consideration!
>> --Brylie Oxley
>> Technology Generalist
>> http://gnumedia.org
>>
>> Course Organizer
>> http://p2pu.org
>>
>> Technology Apprentice
>> http://woolman.org
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>
>On 14/12/2011 2:56 AM, Charles Schweik wrote:
>> Dear OSGeo colleagues,
>>
>> Regarding our proposal to start an OSGeo educational webinar. It
>> occurred to me that some on these lists might not fully understand
>> what we are proposing.
>>
>> First, please check out [1] -- it is a recorded webinar stored on
>> YouTube and example of what we hope to achieve. (This is a webinar
>> put on by Phil Davis' GeoTech center -- Phil is an OSGeo education
>> committee member, and nicely providing the webinar hosting system).
>>
>> Second, I urge knowledgable representatives from OSGeo software
>> projects to consider working with us to schedule an "Introduction to
>> your technology" webinar. Other webinar ideas are WELCOME. Please add
>> your ideas (and your name, email) to our webinar ideas wiki page [2].
>>
>> All of these would be recorded and, with permission of the speaker,
>> stored on YouTube and hopefully inventoried in the new educational
>> material repository being hosted by Suchith Anand and his ELOGeo
>> group at the University of Nottingham, UK. See our main OSGeo
>> education page [3].
>>
>> I do hope some on these lists will step up and help us move this idea
>> forward. This is a great marketing opportunity, especially knowing we
>> can store these on YouTube and in our online searchable database.
>>
>> Charlie Schweik
>> OSGeo Edu committee chair
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> http://www.youtube.com/user/GeospatialTechnology?feature=mhee#p/a/u/0
>> /
>> -vv7OcxATh0
>>
>> [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Edu_webinars
>> [3] http://www.osgeo.org/education
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>
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>
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>
>
>--
>Cameron Shorter
>Geospatial Solutions Manager
>Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>
>Think Globally, Fix Locally
>Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
>http://www.lisasoft.com
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